How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[ST]

Hello,

I try to fetch new mails with Gnus, but it doesn't work. I tried
following options in my `.emacs` file:

    ;(setq gnus-demon-timestep 10)
    (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-group-get-new-news 1 nil)
    ;(gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-mail 1 nil)
    ;(gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news 1 nil)
    (gnus-demon-init)

I tried to add each of the 3 handlers, and put `t` instead of `nil`, but
it didn't work. If I press `g` or run `M-x gnus-group-get-new-news`
manually Gnus does fetchs new mails. I checked `gnus-demon-handlers` and
it indeed says: `gnus-demon-handlers's value is
((gnus-group-get-new-news 1 nil))` but it doesn't fetch mails
automatically.

Thank you!!
Just in case: the question is also here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/38100542/how-to-make-emacs-gnus-to-get-new-mails-automatically

Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[Adam Sjøgren]

ST writes:

> I try to fetch new mails with Gnus, but it doesn't work. I tried
> following options in my `.emacs` file:

I'm using this, which works for me:

  ; Demon to fetch email every 5 minutes when Emacs has been idle for 5 minutes:
  (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news 5 5)
  ; Demon to send queued email every other minute:
  (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-delay-send-queue 1 nil)
  (gnus-demon-init)


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[ST]

Do you use IMAP?

BTW what is better IMAP or POP?

Thank you!

On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 22:48 +0200, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> ST writes:
> 
> > I try to fetch new mails with Gnus, but it doesn't work. I tried
> > following options in my `.emacs` file:
> 
> I'm using this, which works for me:
> 
>   ; Demon to fetch email every 5 minutes when Emacs has been idle for 5 minutes:
>   (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news 5 5)
>   ; Demon to send queued email every other minute:
>   (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-delay-send-queue 1 nil)
>   (gnus-demon-init)
> 
> 
>   Best regards,
> 
>     Adam
> 


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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[Adam Sjøgren]

ST writes:

> Do you use IMAP?

No, not currently - I don't think it matters for this, though.

> BTW what is better IMAP or POP?

They are for different uses.

IMAP is for when you leave your emails on the server, which is
preferable when you want to have multiple email clients accessing the
same email.

POP is for downloading emails to a local machine, which usually means
only accessing them on that one machine.

Roughly.


  :-),

   Adam

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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[ST]

ps: I tried that:
gnus-demon-handlers's value is ((gnus-delay-send-queue 1 nil)
 (gnus-demon-scan-news 5 5))

but it didn't fetch the emails even after waiting 10 min.
I use IMAP so maybe there is a bug with it?...


On Thu, 2016-07-21 at 22:48 +0200, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> ST writes:
> 
> > I try to fetch new mails with Gnus, but it doesn't work. I tried
> > following options in my `.emacs` file:
> 
> I'm using this, which works for me:
> 
>   ; Demon to fetch email every 5 minutes when Emacs has been idle for 5 minutes:
>   (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-demon-scan-news 5 5)
>   ; Demon to send queued email every other minute:
>   (gnus-demon-add-handler 'gnus-delay-send-queue 1 nil)
>   (gnus-demon-init)
> 
> 
>   Best regards,
> 
>     Adam
> 


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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[Adam Sjøgren]

ST writes:

> ps: I tried that:
> gnus-demon-handlers's value is ((gnus-delay-send-queue 1 nil)
>  (gnus-demon-scan-news 5 5))
>
> but it didn't fetch the emails even after waiting 10 min.

Did you stay away from Emacs for at least 5 minutes?

The demon only kicks in when Emacs is idle (i.e. you don't use Emacs at
all. No typing, no nothing).

> I use IMAP so maybe there is a bug with it?...

I don't remember any problems when I was using IMAP, but that is of
course possible.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[ST]

On Fri, 2016-07-22 at 13:52 +0200, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> ST writes:
> 
> > ps: I tried that:
> > gnus-demon-handlers's value is ((gnus-delay-send-queue 1 nil)
> >  (gnus-demon-scan-news 5 5))
> >
> > but it didn't fetch the emails even after waiting 10 min.
> 
> Did you stay away from Emacs for at least 5 minutes?
> 
> The demon only kicks in when Emacs is idle (i.e. you don't use Emacs at
> all. No typing, no nothing).

Yes, absolutely nothing.
I now see that I didn't define an smtp account to use for sending out
emails - could this be a problem?

How can I debug the issue generally?

What other options besides Gnus would you suggest for IMAP?

Thank you!


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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[Adam Sjøgren]

ST writes:

> Yes, absolutely nothing.

How did you know that nothing happened?

Does something happen when you (after 11+ minutes) press 'g' in Gnus?

> I now see that I didn't define an smtp account to use for sending out
> emails - could this be a problem?

No. Sending emails is independent of receiving.

> How can I debug the issue generally?

Generally? Like anything else in Emacs.

So, either M-x edebug-defun a relevant function, or modify it to add
some (message "blah") calls, look in *Messages* etc. etc.

> What other options besides Gnus would you suggest for IMAP?

I'm the wrong person to ask, I have been using Gnus for decades, and
don't like the alternatives.


  Best regards,

    Adam

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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

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On Sat, 2016-07-23 at 21:56 +0200, Adam Sjøgren wrote:
> ST writes:
> 
> > Yes, absolutely nothing.
> 
> How did you know that nothing happened?

Because I sent an email (through another mail client) and it didn't show
up in Gnus...

> Does something happen when you (after 11+ minutes) press 'g' in Gnus?

Then it works and it shows that a new mail arrived...

> > How can I debug the issue generally?
> 
> Generally? Like anything else in Emacs.
> 
> So, either M-x edebug-defun a relevant function, or modify it to add
> some (message "blah") calls, look in *Messages* etc. etc.

which function should I modify and in which file is it located?

Thank you!


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Re: How to make Emacs Gnus to get new mails automatically?

[Adam Sjøgren]

ST writes:

> On Sat, 2016-07-23 at 21:56 +0200, Adam Sjøgren wrote:

>> How did you know that nothing happened?

> Because I sent an email (through another mail client) and it didn't show
> up in Gnus...

>> Does something happen when you (after 11+ minutes) press 'g' in Gnus?

> Then it works and it shows that a new mail arrived...

Ah, ok. Hm.

> which function should I modify and in which file is it located?

Maybe the ones running the demon?

I'm at a loss, because it works for me...


  Best regards,

    Adam

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