From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/14422 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thierry Volpiatto Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Gnus and new mail notification Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:47:48 +0100 Message-ID: <87oc875cqj.fsf@tux.homenetwork> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293472132 13238 80.91.229.12 (27 Dec 2010 17:48:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 17:48:52 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 27 18:48:47 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXHBe-000096-WF for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:48:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38795 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXHBe-0001GU-Hv for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:48:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=59277 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PXHBc-0001GN-25 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:48:45 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXHBW-0002Zw-Fp for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:48:43 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:50336) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PXHBW-0002Zn-28 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 12:48:38 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PXHBU-0008VQ-C5 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:48:36 +0100 Original-Received: from 13.211.85-79.rev.gaoland.net ([79.85.211.13]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:48:36 +0100 Original-Received: from thierry.volpiatto by 13.211.85-79.rev.gaoland.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 27 Dec 2010 18:48:36 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 91 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 13.211.85-79.rev.gaoland.net Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAADAAAAAwBAMAAAClLOS0AAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAAAFz UkdCAK7OHOkAAAAgY0hSTQAAeiYAAICEAAD6AAAAgOgAAHUwAADqYAAAOpgAABdwnLpRPAAAABJQ TFRFBwQEXyQQT0tD2k0bqUEftLCW5J1oDQAAAAlwSFlzAAALEQAACxEBf2RfkQAAAAl2cEFnAAAA MAAAADAAzu6MVwAAAZdJREFUOMt1U0FywyAMFLQPQLZ6N7R9gAO9F6N8wBP//ytdcDqNa6JDHO9K yyLJRL9hp4ks9SJMJ2hHQoe5E+EuemI+W8mwfvKRsLuYOEnt/ePrOu8KIayVYIlIMOaW5TrZvcIB sTzGmqlsSBR/zNu2bQ5PLvGChzKifBMxiFs9JLQKq1piLpHfPApWVJAfa4VojPF70K+bLOvGHgyk YKsAz5X3C4dpEFxBSkNAOJqsE3bB4jRnpKWa9otghl2TJdXUeo9mlRzxRAFpFnBMjw0pECS+EMwk dyBQacb0p/0b73hvdob/vS2Ll6PIPQbPvjdA63Xo4a/XpIxVOREvJc1kO4T9EA5rb1F85mC048po RJuW1p6jWzSvJJ2M5iU8FpjaV40zZu31oSnGc9aZy/yqiknPf4SIlMySacz6SJBCKWudrOqhwegT i8AvDtN8cGY0RWiw6nEg+8ZEueq/gZCpRJLlfPux7hjTOXD3lDs4/MQujg+AuzhxfkKUWTbXI8ao 9QvqnC2lu1iG+67gqb+JNvMTuwf8BxNSRJN3OGcZAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOmNyZWF0ZQAyMDEwLTEx LTI2VDA4OjI0OjQxKzAxOjAw3lS1DwAAACV0RVh0ZGF0ZTptb2RpZnkAMjAxMC0xMS0yNFQxMDo1 NDo1MiswMTowMDvcFUsAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:nuTAowUgN//WnjrrtBBqtNe6Z1Q= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:14422 Archived-At: Richard Riley writes: > Thierry Volpiatto writes: > >> Richard Riley writes: >> >>> Thierry Volpiatto writes: >>> >>>> Richard Riley writes: >>>> >>>>> Yuri D'Elia writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 00:19:42 +0100, Richard Riley wrote: >>>>>>>> As soon as you use splitting or virtual groups, an external process >>>>>>>> becomes useless (for instance, I have several rules that split messages >>>>>>>> into groups that I ignore). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not if you dont use the demon and then split when you hit g. In other >>>>>>> words you only fetch your mail when gnubiff or something similar tells >>>>>>> you that you have new mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> Concrete example: if splitting includes spam rules, gnubiff will notify >>>>>> you of spam too. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Yes that is most certainly true. Since I use googlemail I'm kind of >>>>> spoiled as their spam filtering server side is pretty good these days >>>>> (that and my spam-split set up doesnt work anymore on NoGnus) and so I >>>>> turned off client side "spam-split"ting. >>>> >>>> If you use gmail, you can have easy mail notification with: >>>> >>>> https://mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom >>>> >>>> It give you an xml buffer you have to parse. >>>> >>>> A library exists on emacswiki for this, don't remember the name, it >>>> didn't work for me so i wrote small code for this for my personal use, i >>>> can send it if interested. >>>> Of course if one use gnus-demon, it's non--sense to use this. >>> >>> Just as an FYI to the OP if new to Gnus, I have found the best set up >>> for me with Gnus is dovecot locally fed by offlineimap which is run as a >>> cron job every half hour or so. >> I use here offlineimap.el that is started each time i start gnus. >> http://julien.danjou.info/offlineimap-el.html >> I think that coupled with a gmail notification is better than a >> cronjob. > > I dont think it is since the benefit of my way is I dont need gnus > running to see email notifications. Me too ;-) See above Gnus is stopped. 1) I call async https://mail.google.com/mail/feed/atom every five minutes. 2) When i am notified of a new email, i run Gnus who run offlineimap. > Emacs/Gnus just dont do "async" well > and for me its not its job to run offlineimap which isnt necessarily the > quickest anyway. Still horses for courses and an interesting mix of > approaches ;) >> >>> nnir search works really well and of >>> course there are then no performance or bandwidth issues with Gnus >>> talking imap with remote gmail servers. Plus you have a local copy of >>> your mail. Here is one "how to" for the set up: >>> >>> http://sachachua.com/blog/2008/05/geek-how-to-use-offlineimap-and-the-dovecot-mail-server-to-read-your-gmail-in-emacs-efficiently/ >>> http://tinyurl.com/26cwmok >> >> I have also started to use dovecot/offlineimap, however it's was not so >> easy to configure dovecot, especially the mail_location, what is >> described in sacha blog is deprecated. >> >> So here i use for gmail: >> ,----[ dovecot config ] >> | mail_location = maildir:~/Maildir:LAYOUT=fs:INBOX=~/Maildir/INBOX >> `---- >> Hope that's help > > I use multiple virtual users to handle my different gmail accounts. I > can share the set up if anyone is interested. -- A+ Thierry Get my Gnupg key: gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys 59F29997