From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/8329 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gernot Hassenpflug Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: More mail questions Date: Mon, 04 Dec 2006 15:58:11 +0900 Organization: Academic Center for Computing and Media Studies, Kyoto University, JAPAN Message-ID: <87odqkw3jw.fsf@fukaolx15.rish.kuins.net> References: <87vem6u3ug.fsf@gmail.com> <87slha2rh7.fsf@lion.rapttech.com.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: dough.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1165218019 16853 80.91.229.10 (4 Dec 2006 07:40:19 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 07:40:19 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 04 08:40:15 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by dough.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Gr8Qw-0000Vs-2p for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 08:40:14 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Gr8Qv-0006zH-Pn for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 04 Dec 2006 02:40:13 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!news.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 61 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: h45.110.244.10.31184.vlan.kuins.net Original-X-Trace: caraway.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp 1165215243 10772 10.244.110.45 (4 Dec 2006 06:54:03 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@news.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 06:54:03 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:lW59AwzTJHx1wJiIjN75K1Pr7po= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:78514 Original-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:8329 Archived-At: Tim X writes: > Hadron Quark writes: > >> I am using smtpmail package through a gmail smtp server to send email. >> >> But if I use gnus to send a mail to "root@localhost" why isnt procmail >> picking it up and diverting it to my local root mmaildir? Procmail does >> its job just fine when I use the Linux commandline "mail" command. >> >> I'm unsure where postfix and smptmail.el fit together. >> >> Any pointers appreciated. >> >> -- > > When using smtpmail, emacs connects directly to the remote smtp server > and totally bypasses your local smtp server (postfix). Your procmail > is probably the default delivery agent for your local smtp server > (this is the standard config these days). /../ > I recently started using smtpmail because my ISP has placed all their > dynamic IP addresses into various blacklists and messages I sent via > my local smtp server (which was setup as a smarthost that relayed all > non-local mail to my ISP smtp server, would often get rejected by > destination hosts that were using a very strict mail policy which > refuses to accept mail from blacklisted IPs. Many ISPs are doing this > these days to protect themselves from being blacklisted by a customer > who runs a local smtp server which is either misconfigured and gets > abused by a spammer or to send spam themselves. > > I've been running this configuration for a couple of weeks now and it > works quite well. The only downside is that sometimes there can be a > slight delay between sending the mail and getting emacs responding > again - probably due to high loads on the remote smtp server. I have > also configured fetchmail to retrieve my mail from remote imap/pop > mailboxes and hand it directly to procmail. This means I no longer > need to run a mail server at all - which is great as I'm way past > finding maintaining a mail server "fun" and the less I have to > maintain the better. I was running exim as my local mail server as it > is easy to setup. Postfix is probably overkill for a local machine, > unless you have many users and lots of mail traffic. From memory, I > also seem to remember it is a bit difficult to run postfix and NOT > have it run as a daemon listening on prot 25. Many people don't > realise that you only need an smtp server listening on a port if you > are accepting mail from a remote host. Likewise, many people forget > that the mail server (postfix, sendmail, exim etc) don't actually > deliver mail, but instead use a delivery program, such as procmail. Greatly helpful explanations Tim. That's what I do too on the Tx side, although on Rx side I use gnus's POP mail facility and rely on my ISP's fitlering (and manual intervention for training via webmail interface). -- Gernot Hassenpflug (gernot@rish.kyoto-u.ac.jp) Tel: +81 774 38-3866 JSPS Fellow (Rm.403, RISH, Kyoto Uni.) Fax: +81 774 31-8463 www.rish.kyoto-u.ac.jp/radar-group/members/gernot Mob: +81 90 39493924