From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/18758 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Christoph Groth Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Gnus capitalizes non-header "from" Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:08:31 +0100 Message-ID: <87po8li0cw.fsf@grothesque.org> References: <87k1yuuqt0.fsf@grothesque.org> <87a7zqf8ba.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <87fu9hsmmf.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87a7zpux6y.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============6016772821620037255==" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1510657728 23316 195.159.176.226 (14 Nov 2017 11:08:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:08:48 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 14 12:08:35 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eEZ4y-0005IE-Po for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:08:33 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58858 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEZ55-0006Dj-Sh for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:08:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47864) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEZ50-0006DR-4w for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:08:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEZ4w-00040V-5C for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:08:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mail6.webfaction.com ([31.170.123.134]:51560 helo=smtp.webfaction.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eEZ4v-0003yg-QM for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 06:08:30 -0500 Original-Received: from localhost (unknown [185.20.49.7]) by smtp.webfaction.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id A523D609123F0 for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:08:14 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <87a7zpux6y.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> ("Adam =?utf-8?Q?Sj?= =?utf-8?Q?=C3=B8gren=22's?= message of "Tue, 14 Nov 2017 08:38:29 +0100") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 31.170.123.134 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "info-gnus-english" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:18758 Archived-At: --===============6016772821620037255== Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==-=-="; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature" --==-=-= Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Adam Sj=C3=B8gren wrote: > Eric writes: > > >> Are you sure Gnus is the program mangling it? It is mangled in your > >> sent-folder? > >> > >> I just tried emailing myself an attachment and "from" was untouched > >> - both in the copy in the sent-folder and the one I received > >> through my local Postfix. (I tried both with disposition=3Dattachment > >> and inline, same result). > > > > FWIW, I tried it, and the "from" was capitalized in both the > > received and sent version. > > Hm, interesting! Thanks for your interest! I did some more systematic tests. The mangling is visible in the locally saved version of the message, so it's definitely caused locally. Moreover, the mangling seems to simply affect all the lines that begin with a lower-case "from ", also in the main body. The problem does *not* occur if I do not sign the message! It *does* occur when the message is signed either with an OpenPGP or with an S/MIME key. > Difference in versions? In storage type? > > (GNU Emacs 27.0.50 built from > a7b7b85567f766ff510a5eaaaf32dbbbec15efd0, nnml). GNU Emacs 24.5.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.22.11) of 2017-09-12 on hullmann, modified by Debian It's not a new problem, I remember seeing it for the first time years ago. > I would guess that storage formats that have more than one email per > file need to "escape" lines starting with "From " (as that is the > separator), and maybe something then happens to lines starting with > "from " as well? It seems indeed have something to do with it, and not with SMTP headers. > If you view the raw article, what does the line look like then? I attach the pristine mbox file of a sent message (saved directly from Gnus with 'o'). I only removed the host parts of email addresses. The MD5 sum of the attached file is ec7588fe8704b1d48aba09976894bc2e. I am signing this mail, so let's see what will happen: From=20this time forward, you will service us. 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