From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16466 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Enrico Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: imap acl editing broken Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:17:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87pptw6uu0.fsf@kosh.bigo.ensc.de> References: <87txj8788p.fsf@kosh.bigo.ensc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1375453047 31840 80.91.229.3 (2 Aug 2013 14:17:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:17:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org To: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 02 16:17:30 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1V5GAa-0005KH-93 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:17:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33508 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5GAZ-000079-SJ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 10:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:55843) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5GAT-00006z-Ky for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 10:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5GAO-0005lD-8x for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 10:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de ([212.227.126.186]:53751) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1V5GAN-0005ke-UK for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 10:17:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.bigo.ensc.de (p54ADF105.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.173.241.5]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (node=mrbap3) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MLfvf-1V4Qot3IWJ-000qwn; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:17:13 +0200 Original-Received: from kosh.bigo.ensc.de (kosh.bigo.ensc.de [192.168.46.2]) by mail.bigo.ensc.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r72EHBWS006368; Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:17:11 +0200 Original-Received: from ensc by kosh.bigo.ensc.de with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V5GAJ-0003Ey-9r; Fri, 02 Aug 2013 16:17:11 +0200 In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Fri, 02 Aug 2013 15:00:40 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.1 (gnu/linux) X-Provags-ID: V02:K0:tjzws8cwTn+pNcaMkpN63+6idwIUo3iuwUPQYahg93n ErDn3zFUaIzOxQDCnk4dMm4JCXZFSWcWitI+KjPQUa/HSCVeIT /DgVwdRg3Nz1IWIlmtVlh1zCz1bnpaVHglSzClKqVh7Yzl6n96 n89oSmwvpm1EpZQri0C6wRCk0mGOEucJb4xnFu1DvDVQDaAXYf yMUmqE6huSX21PKHCb6unSVWwbnVfA8tcLE8VoobK3tmE+DaQn 82+OTvySmlsB2HpxBpvmAizoR0PlTQhiXK/cD9pf5Y8fe8qjfN 0tVKsOVp0b0YYIqsWyaIUlnAth0ftv7g8A3OOoF7XvnBzOfy6G HWp3sYe4SP7P74ndxVyU= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4.x-2.6.x [generic] X-Received-From: 212.227.126.186 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16466 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: >> IMAP ACLs are described in http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4314 and their >> modification worked already with previous gnus versions. > > Hm... I skimmed the first section of the RFC, and it still didn't tell > me what ACLs are. >"? You can give other people permissions on your imap folders. E.g. you can say, that 'INBOX.project.foo' can be read (beside yourself) by user 'foo' and that user 'boss' can delete mails there. See e.g. [1] for some more details about supported permissions. I use it in kerberos cross realm setups, to give myself access to my mailbox from both realms (e.g. both 'ensc@REALM' and 'ensc@OTHER-REALM' have admin/all rights on the mailbox). In some customer setup, we create shared mailboxes, so that non personalized mails (e.g. to 'service@example.com' or 'info@example.com') are delivered to those mailboxes which can be accessed by a group of people. You can give also other people temporarily access to your mailbox (e.g. during vacation). >> Unfortunately, the gnus version is both v5.13 in working and >> non-working case, but the MUA (gnus v5.13 bundled with emacs-23.1 from >> RHEL 6.4) I am writing the current message with, supports modification >> of ACLs. but other MUAs (gnus v5.13 bundled with emacs-24.3 from >> Fedora 19) fail with message above. > > Yes, nnimap was rewritten for Emacs 24, and the ACL stuff went AWOL > because 1) I have no idea what it is and 2) nobody seemed to be using > it. ACL support was one of the killer features of gnus; I knew only some web frontends (horde) and cli tools which support modification of acls. ACLs are changed seldomly, but I do not want to miss them. > You're the first person to mention it, and it's been gone a year... > > The code could be resurrected, of course, but it would have to be by > someone who could test it. Patches are welcome. I can test it and can perhaps provide access to cyrus imap server. Enrico Footnotes: [1] http://oreilly.com/catalog/mimap/chapter/ch09.html "Table 9-2: Mailbox Access Rights"