From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16167 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ezequiel Birman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Populating and updating the active file local cache and keeping gnus from querying Astraweb after '1g' Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:04:40 -0300 Organization: None Message-ID: <87ppykv17r.fsf@david.espiga4.com.ar> References: <87ehfhuyew.fsf@david.espiga4.com.ar> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364428721 15331 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2013 23:58:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 23:58:41 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 28 00:59:08 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UL0FF-0004Io-J2 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:59:05 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37215 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL0Er-0008M4-MK for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:58:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46943) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL0Em-0008Lk-1A for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:58:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL0Eh-0003M9-T6 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:58:35 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:50002) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL0Eh-0003Lt-M9 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 19:58:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UL0F2-0003Y3-DA for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:58:52 +0100 Original-Received: from 186.23.98.42 ([186.23.98.42]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:58:52 +0100 Original-Received: from stormwatch by 186.23.98.42 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 00:58:52 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 56 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 186.23.98.42 User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:gY+E4B+RrovkKrBywHQWb62Lm2M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16167 Archived-At: >>>>> "Ezequiel" == Ezequiel Birman writes: > *** note *** I was wondering why I got no replies to my original > message. It seems I posted on the wrong group gnu.emacs.gnus > although according to http://www.gnus.org/resources.html "The > gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup is the appropriate place to ask questions > on usage of released versions of Gnus." I thought gnu.emacs.gnus > was gatewayed to gmane.emacs.gnus.user but my message didn't > appear on searches. *** end of note *** > I've configured gnus to only fetch my mail (with nnmail) when I > press '1g' (and also at startup). Nevertheless, since I've added a > new nntp binary server (Astraweb) gnus always wastes some precious > seconds reading the active file from this server as you can see in > the extract below. Is that unavoidable? This is from *Messages* > after starting gnus: > ,---- | Opening nnfolder server on archive...done | Opening nntp > server on news.gmane.org...done | Opening nntp server on > news.gwene.org...done | Opening nntp server on Astraweb US > SSL...done | Opening nnml server on david.espiga4.com.ar...done | > 165 new newsgroups have arrived | Checking new news... | Reading > active file from Astraweb US SSL via nntp... | Reading active > file from david.espiga4.com.ar via nnml... | Reading incoming > mail from file... `---- > On a related note, and proably more important too, I can only > browse through Astraweb's groups if I enter the *Server* buffer > whereas I'd rather like to be able to have them in the Killed (or > Zombie if new) Groups list so I can see them when I press 'A > k'. Is this possible? I've tried recreating the active file with > gnus-cache-generate-active, also gnus-group-find-new-groups (with > one and two C-u prefixes) but I keep seeing only the groups from > old servers (gmane, gwene, and my primary server individual.net) > A list of pertinent variables: > gnus-activate-level 5 (changed from the default which is 6) > gnus-group-default-list-level 5 gnus-group-use-permanent-levels > nil gnus-level-default-subscribed 3 > gnus-level-default-unsubscribed 6 gnus-level-killed 9 > gnus-level-subscribed 5 gnus-level-unsubscribed 7 > gnus-level-zombie 8 gnus-subscribe-newsgroup-method > gnus-subscribe-zombies > Gnus v5.13 > GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu, X toolkit, Xaw3d > scroll bars) of 2013-01-11 on david.espiga4.com.ar > -- Ezequiel Birman Anyone, at least a hint, please? -- Ezequiel Birman