From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16701 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: regcl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: emac gnus-centric gmail-phobic multi-host mail management Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:04:48 -0500 Message-ID: <87r470tkr3.fsf@channing.harvard.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1392744617 28356 80.91.229.3 (18 Feb 2014 17:30:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 17:30:17 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 18 18:30:25 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFoUy-0000SI-JD for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52069 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFoUy-0006j3-5W for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:30:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40829) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFoUp-0006iM-Mr for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:30:22 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFoUi-0003or-CY for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:30:15 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34494) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WFoUi-0003nh-66 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:30:08 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WFoUe-0008Tm-JP for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:04 +0100 Original-Received: from pool-71-174-128-130.bstnma.east.verizon.net ([71.174.128.130]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:04 +0100 Original-Received: from regcl by pool-71-174-128-130.bstnma.east.verizon.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:30:04 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 67 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-71-174-128-130.bstnma.east.verizon.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:YvtnskSP6TuY6YoDBXU3gjh8qPI= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16701 Archived-At: Sorry for the length of this. Please let me know if I am posting to the wrong list. I use a lot of different machines including mac os x desktops/notebooks at work and home, Grid engine cluster submit hosts reached by ssh and compute hosts reached by the grid engine qrsh commend at various work sites, and debian servers at home. I use emacs 24.3/tty everywhere, which I build from source on most machines. I have been using gnus for about a year as my mail client, and it works everywhere. I am just starting to use newgroups. I want/need to modify my mail approach with these objectives: A) Sweep mail off of the servers Currently my mail is mostly served by gmail + an an exchange server, either from work accounts administered by my employer/institution or personal accounts and accessed by IMAP. I want to stop using these servers as my master mail repository and reduce the amount of mail left there to a minimum. So, I need to sweep mail off of accounts into my own mail repos. The approach needs to support compartmentalization, by which I mean that at home I need all the repos (personal and work) and at work I need only work related mail repos. B) Sync the gnus view I want to sync my gnus view of mail and newsgroups so it is consistent and up to date on all machines. Once again, this needs to be compartmentalized. At work I want to see only the work-related stuff, at home I want to see everything. C) Compatible mail repo/backup scheme I need to park the mail I am sweeping somewhere, once again with the compartmentalization issues. While I use emacs as my primary email client, it would probably be wise not to lock myself in to emacs, so maybe I want the mail in a form compatible with other clients on my mac os x desktops, most likely mac mail.app. What is the lightest weight approach here? Is it maildir with dovecot/localhost? D) Replication of the mail repos. I don't think I want to put up a pop or imap server on the net, at least not now. So I am thinking the problem here is primarily one of replication of my mail directories across machines. Am I right? Based on my limited reading about mail, it seems like this could be done with IMAP, but I know zilch about IMAP and I don't have a place to park a personal IMAP server on the net. On the other hand I use git for all of the other replication/syncing that I ever do. So here is the question: Can I park my mail in maildir with sub-repos for work and play, and use git for replication between machines? What would be the pros and cons of this approach vs learning using IMAP? Thanks in advance, regcl