* Automatically detecting the charset @ 2003-01-21 10:29 Michael Below 2003-01-21 11:02 ` Kai Großjohann [not found] ` <87wukxtrhe.fsf@antithese.de> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Below @ 2003-01-21 10:29 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, I would like gnus to send mail and news articles in iso 8859-1 by default, but to switch to another charset if necessary. I just sent a mail conatining an ¤ euro sign in that format, which is no good. Gnus should find out that the ¤ requires iso8859-15 and encode the message appropriately. Right now, I have these settings on encoding: '(current-language-environment "Latin-9") '(default-input-method "latin-9-prefix") Excuse me if this is mentioned in the manual somewhere, I couldn't find it. Michael -- _Agricultural activity_ is the management by an enterprise of the biological transformation of biological assets for sale, into agricultural produce, or into additional biological assets. IAS 41,5 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically detecting the charset 2003-01-21 10:29 Automatically detecting the charset Michael Below @ 2003-01-21 11:02 ` Kai Großjohann [not found] ` <87wukxtrhe.fsf@antithese.de> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-01-21 11:02 UTC (permalink / raw) Michael Below <mbelow@antithese.de> writes: > I would like gnus to send mail and news articles in iso 8859-1 by > default, but to switch to another charset if necessary. I just sent a > mail conatining an ¤ euro sign in that format, which is no good. Gnus > should find out that the ¤ requires iso8859-15 and encode the message > appropriately. Your message is encoded in Latin-1, which does not have a Euro sign. I wonder how that comes. How do you insert the Euro sign? What does C-u C-x = say on a Euro sign? > Right now, I have these settings on encoding: > '(current-language-environment "Latin-9") > '(default-input-method "latin-9-prefix") Hm. This should insert Latin-9 characters, so by default you should always send Latin-9, I think. Hm. -- Ambibibentists unite! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Automatically detecting the charset [not found] ` <87y95cm9ec.fsf@antithese.de> @ 2003-01-23 16:04 ` Kai Großjohann 2003-01-24 10:16 ` Michael Below 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-01-23 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw) Michael Below <mbelow@antithese.de> writes: > For my test file, this says: > Coding system for saving this buffer: > t -- raw-text-unix > Default coding system (for new files): > 0 -- iso-latin-9 (alias: iso-8859-15 latin-9 latin-0) > Coding system for keyboard input: > nil > Coding system for terminal output: > 0 -- iso-latin-9 (alias: iso-8859-15 latin-9 latin-0) I don't understand. It seems to know about Latin-9, yet it fails to recognize this when opening files. Hm. For keyboard input, it might help to say C-x RET k iso-8859-15 RET. Then enter umlauts. Do they show up in the proper encoding? Hm. Try LANG=de_DE@euro emacs -q -no-site-file in bash. Then open a file with umlauts into that Emacs. Is that okay? -- Ambibibentists unite! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically detecting the charset [not found] ` <87y95cm9ec.fsf@antithese.de> 2003-01-23 16:04 ` Kai Großjohann @ 2003-01-24 10:16 ` Michael Below 2003-01-24 12:34 ` Kai Großjohann [not found] ` <87u1fwud4w.fsf@antithese.de> 1 sibling, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Below @ 2003-01-24 10:16 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, a followup to Kai's message <84bs277szf.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>: > For keyboard input, it might help to say C-x RET k iso-8859-15 RET. > Then enter umlauts. Do they show up in the proper encoding? No, that doesn't help. I am being offered iso-latin-9 as a default when I do that, but C-u C-x = still gives me "eight-bit-graphic". > Try > > LANG=de_DE@euro emacs -q -no-site-file > > in bash. Then open a file with umlauts into that Emacs. Is that > okay? Hey, that works! Now characters are recognized as something like: character: ö (07566, 3958, 0xf76) charset: latin-iso8859-15 (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 9 (ISO/IEC 8859-15): ISO-IR-203) code point: 118 syntax: word category: l:Latin buffer code: 0x8E 0xF6 file code: F6 (encoded by coding system iso-latin-9-unix) font: -monotype-courier new-medium-r-normal--17-128-95-95-m-100-iso8859-15 That sounds much better! It also works if I leave out the -q. So it looks like the system init files are buggy somehow. I know these init files: ~ $ls /etc/emacs/site-start.d 00debian-vars.el 50dpkg-dev.el 50gettext.el 50mew.el 50bbdb.el 50erc.el 50mailcrypt.el 50user-de.el ~ $ls /etc/emacs21/site-start.d 00debian-vars.elc 49url.el 50psgml-init.el 50w3.el Should I try removing them and putting them back in one by one, or is there a more intelligent approach? Ciao Michael -- _Agricultural activity_ is the management by an enterprise of the biological transformation of biological assets for sale, into agricultural produce, or into additional biological assets. IAS 41,5 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Automatically detecting the charset 2003-01-24 10:16 ` Michael Below @ 2003-01-24 12:34 ` Kai Großjohann [not found] ` <87u1fwud4w.fsf@antithese.de> 1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-01-24 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw) Michael Below <mbelow@antithese.de> writes: > Hi, > > a followup to Kai's message > <84bs277szf.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>: > >> For keyboard input, it might help to say C-x RET k iso-8859-15 RET. >> Then enter umlauts. Do they show up in the proper encoding? > > No, that doesn't help. I am being offered iso-latin-9 as a default > when I do that, but C-u C-x = still gives me "eight-bit-graphic". Did you enter new umlauts and use C-u C-x = on them? >> Try >> >> LANG=de_DE@euro emacs -q -no-site-file >> >> in bash. Then open a file with umlauts into that Emacs. Is that >> okay? > > Hey, that works! Now characters are recognized as something like: > > character: ö (07566, 3958, 0xf76) > charset: latin-iso8859-15 > (Right-Hand Part of Latin Alphabet 9 (ISO/IEC 8859-15): ISO-IR-203) > code point: 118 > syntax: word > category: l:Latin > buffer code: 0x8E 0xF6 > file code: F6 (encoded by coding system iso-latin-9-unix) > font: > -monotype-courier new-medium-r-normal--17-128-95-95-m-100-iso8859-15 > > That sounds much better! > It also works if I leave out the -q. > So it looks like the system init files are buggy somehow. > > I know these init files: > ~ $ls /etc/emacs/site-start.d > 00debian-vars.el 50dpkg-dev.el 50gettext.el 50mew.el > 50bbdb.el 50erc.el 50mailcrypt.el 50user-de.el > ~ $ls /etc/emacs21/site-start.d > 00debian-vars.elc 49url.el 50psgml-init.el 50w3.el > > Should I try removing them and putting them back in one by one, or > is there a more intelligent approach? I'd look at 50user-de.el, first. If that isn't it, try your approach. Is there standard-display-european in 50user-de.el? It could cause the problem. -- Ambibibentists unite! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Automatically detecting the charset [not found] ` <87u1fwud4w.fsf@antithese.de> @ 2003-01-26 20:25 ` Michael Below 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Michael Below @ 2003-01-26 20:25 UTC (permalink / raw) Hi, Kai wrote in <84fzrg7yk3.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>: > Wow. I wonder if "dpkg --purge" would have deleted it, and which > Debian package it came from. (Are you running Debian?) Yes, I am running Debian. I guess --purge would have deleted this, but usually packages are just removed, leaving the config files behind... Maybe this came from the user-de package of Debian 2.1 or something like that. Thank you for your help! Michael -- _Agricultural activity_ is the management by an enterprise of the biological transformation of biological assets for sale, into agricultural produce, or into additional biological assets. IAS 41,5 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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