change in default Follow up behaviour?

change in default Follow up behaviour?

[Sivaram Neelakantan]

On this and other newsgroups, I believe a 'F' "follow up", to any
message would only send it to the newsgroup. It's been so long that I
don't notice the headers when I do a follow up but only have I noticed
that it replies to the poster and CCs the list.

Is that how follow ups are supposed to work?

 sivaram
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Re: change in default Follow up behaviour?

[W. Greenhouse]

Hi Sivaram,

Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> writes:

> On this and other newsgroups, I believe a 'F' "follow up", to any
> message would only send it to the newsgroup. It's been so long that I
> don't notice the headers when I do a follow up but only have I noticed
> that it replies to the poster and CCs the list.
>
> Is that how follow ups are supposed to work?
>
>  sivaram
>  -- 

`F' from here (via the gmane.emacs.gnus.user newsgroup, with Gnus v5.13
and GNU Emacs 24.3.1) only adds the newsgroup gmane.emacs.gnus.user to
the header.  It does not look like the gnus-summary-followup function
could be causing this behavior, since it only sets the Newsgroups:
header line:

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(defun gnus-summary-followup (yank &optional force-news)
  "Compose a followup to an article.
If prefix argument YANK is non-nil, the original article is yanked
automatically.
YANK is a list of elements, where the car of each element is the
article number, and the cdr is the string to be yanked."
  (interactive
   (list (and current-prefix-arg
	      (gnus-summary-work-articles 1))))
  (when yank
    (gnus-summary-goto-subject
     (if (listp (car yank))
	 (caar yank)
       (car yank))))
  (save-window-excursion
    (gnus-summary-select-article))
  (let ((headers (gnus-summary-article-header (gnus-summary-article-number)))
	(gnus-newsgroup-name gnus-newsgroup-name))
    ;; Send a followup.
    (gnus-post-news nil gnus-newsgroup-name
		    headers gnus-article-buffer
		    yank nil force-news)
    (gnus-summary-handle-replysign)))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

But of course, if one of the people you are replying to also directly
addressed someone, that will stay in the header and the followup
command won't get rid of that direct reply.


-- 
Regards,
WGG

Re: change in default Follow up behaviour?

[Tassilo Horn]

Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:

> On this and other newsgroups, I believe a 'F' "follow up", to any
> message would only send it to the newsgroup. It's been so long that I
> don't notice the headers when I do a follow up but only have I noticed
> that it replies to the poster and CCs the list.
>
> Is that how follow ups are supposed to work?

No.  For me `F'/`f' just follows up to the newsgroup.  A wide reply `S
W'/`S w' has the effect you describe.  I think following up becomes wide
reply in groups where `gnus-mailing-list-mode' is active.

Bye,
Tassilo

Re: change in default Follow up behaviour?

[Sivaram Neelakantan]

On Tue, Jul 02 2013,Tassilo Horn wrote:

> Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> On this and other newsgroups, I believe a 'F' "follow up", to any
>> message would only send it to the newsgroup. It's been so long that I
>> don't notice the headers when I do a follow up but only have I noticed
>> that it replies to the poster and CCs the list.
>>
>> Is that how follow ups are supposed to work?
>
> No.  For me `F'/`f' just follows up to the newsgroup.  A wide reply `S
> W'/`S w' has the effect you describe.  I think following up becomes wide
> reply in groups where `gnus-mailing-list-mode' is active.
>
> Bye,
> Tassilo

My Group Parameters has this; do this affect Follow ups?

((to-list . "info-gnus-english@gnu.org")
 (display . 100))

and 
gnus-mailing-list-mode is a variable defined in `gnus-ml.el'.
Its value is nil



 sivaram
 -- 

Re: change in default Follow up behaviour?

[Tassilo Horn]

Sivaram Neelakantan <nsivaram.net@gmail.com> writes:

> My Group Parameters has this; do this affect Follow ups?
>
> ((to-list . "info-gnus-english@gnu.org")
>  (display . 100))

Yes, a `to-list' parameter enables `gnus-mailing-list-mode' in that
group.

,----[ (info "(gnus)Group Parameters") ]
| ‘to-list’
|      Address used when doing ‘a’ in that group.
| 
|           (to-list . "some@where.com")
| 
|      It is totally ignored when doing a followup—except that if it is
|      present in a news group, you’ll get mail group semantics when doing
|      ‘f’.
| 
|      If you do an ‘a’ command in a mail group and you have neither a
|      ‘to-list’ group parameter nor a ‘to-address’ group parameter, then
|      a ‘to-list’ group parameter will be added automatically upon
|      sending the message if ‘gnus-add-to-list’ is set to ‘t’.
| 
|      If this variable is set, ‘gnus-mailing-list-mode’ is turned on when
|      entering summary buffer.
| 
|      See also ‘gnus-parameter-to-list-alist’.
`----

> and gnus-mailing-list-mode is a variable defined in `gnus-ml.el'.  Its
> value is nil

Did you check its value in the *Summary* buffer of the corresponding
gmane group?

Bye,
Tassilo

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