From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/15848 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Gardella Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus in an IMAP multi-client setup. 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X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:15848 Archived-At: Daniel Corbe writes: > I hope this is the right place to ask for general advice. gnus makes an > awesome news reader and with all the performance gains with the version > of gnus distributed with emacs24 I'd like to use it as an IMAP mail > reader as well. > > I need gnus to behave in a cooperative way with other IMAP clients. > gnus is marking entire folders as read as soon as I open them > up in the group summary buffer. This is undesirable behavior, because > then my other IMAP clients also show the message marked as read. > > Can someone point me in the right direction? I'd like to be able to > manually toggle the read status of a message or even have it done > automatically -- but only after I've viewed the message. > > -Daniel Daniel, Could we see your setup? How are you accessing IMAP mail? I use my two IMAP accounts as secondary select methods and they don't mark mail as read (technically, set the IMAP Seen flag) until I have either actually read them or told Gnus to mark them as read. The two accounts are set up like this: (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nnimap "imap.pitt.edu" (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnir-search-engine imap)) (nnimap "imap.gmail.com" (nnimap-server-port 993) (nnimap-stream ssl) (nnir-search-engine imap)))) I have experienced behavior like you describe when experimenting with Fetchmail as an IMAP retrieval agent, however. Fetchmail rudely sets Seen when it fetches. It's a very good reason not to use Fetchmail for IMAP; if you like that sort of utility, better to use getmail or offlineimap, which behave more properly from an IMAP standpoint.