* going imap
@ 2003-05-13 8:27 Paul Stevenson
2003-05-13 11:29 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] ` <843cjjf585.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Paul Stevenson @ 2003-05-13 8:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
Hello,
I decided it was time to read my mail via imap, since it is the
'supported' way to do it here. In fact the local imap system writes
files directly to ~/mbox (which is how I slurped the mail before)
and also sometimes directly into ~/Mail (there is some splitting of
spam before the mail gets to me), which was not really good, but
we are supposed to read these files through imap.
Anyway, because of the second point, I set gnus-home-directory to
be something new in my .emacs file and began affresh with a very
clean .gnus with just
(setq gnus-select-method
'(nnimap "mail"
(nnimap-address "imap.server")
(nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX" "Mail/*"))))
since I don't want to read netnews from this account.
So, things kinda work except that when I start up a gnus session,
gnus doesn't know how many unread articles are in the nnimap groups
as viewed from the group buffer. Only after looking at an nnimap
group do I get an unread article count. The information is then
lost between gnus sessions.
Also 'g' doesn't see new mail. M-g does, but I don't want to have
to position the cursor over my INBOX group before I can hit some key
to check for new mail.
Are these just features of imap that I will learn to live with?
thanks,
Paul
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* Re: going imap
2003-05-13 8:27 going imap Paul Stevenson
@ 2003-05-13 11:29 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] ` <87llxbvzjq.semiexecutive@boppy.dyndns.org>
[not found] ` <843cjjf585.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
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From: Simon Josefsson @ 2003-05-13 11:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
Paul Stevenson <paul@gleet.org.uk> writes:
> Hello,
> I decided it was time to read my mail via imap, since it is the
> 'supported' way to do it here. In fact the local imap system writes
> files directly to ~/mbox (which is how I slurped the mail before)
> and also sometimes directly into ~/Mail (there is some splitting of
> spam before the mail gets to me), which was not really good, but
> we are supposed to read these files through imap.
>
> Anyway, because of the second point, I set gnus-home-directory to
> be something new in my .emacs file and began affresh with a very
> clean .gnus with just
>
> (setq gnus-select-method
> '(nnimap "mail"
> (nnimap-address "imap.server")
> (nnimap-list-pattern ("INBOX" "Mail/*"))))
>
> since I don't want to read netnews from this account.
>
> So, things kinda work except that when I start up a gnus session,
> gnus doesn't know how many unread articles are in the nnimap groups
> as viewed from the group buffer. Only after looking at an nnimap
> group do I get an unread article count. The information is then
> lost between gnus sessions.
>
> Also 'g' doesn't see new mail. M-g does, but I don't want to have
> to position the cursor over my INBOX group before I can hit some key
> to check for new mail.
Does setting `nnimap-need-unselect-to-notice-new-mail' help?
> Are these just features of imap that I will learn to live with?
It works for me.
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* Re: going imap
[not found] ` <843cjjf585.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
@ 2003-05-13 12:51 ` Paul Stevenson
2003-05-13 16:36 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] ` <84fznjxamc.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
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From: Paul Stevenson @ 2003-05-13 12:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> You are using nnimap as the primary select method. Maybe it works
> better if you use it as a secondary select method.
>
> I recommend (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "")) if you want to go
> that route (or try it). nnnil is a backend that contains no groups.
Oh. That is what I used to do, but one of the aesthetic plusses in
starting again from scratch is that (I thought) I could dispense with
the nnnil select method and just have a nnimap primary select method
and no secondaries... Oh well. You are right, though. My problems
are solved by using nnimap as a secondary select method. Thanks!
Paul
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* Re: going imap
2003-05-13 12:51 ` Paul Stevenson
@ 2003-05-13 16:36 ` Simon Josefsson
[not found] ` <84fznjxamc.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de>
1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Simon Josefsson @ 2003-05-13 16:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
Paul Stevenson <paul@gleet.org.uk> writes:
> kai.grossjohann@gmx.net (Kai Großjohann) writes:
>
>> You are using nnimap as the primary select method. Maybe it works
>> better if you use it as a secondary select method.
>>
>> I recommend (setq gnus-select-method '(nnnil "")) if you want to go
>> that route (or try it). nnnil is a backend that contains no groups.
>
> Oh. That is what I used to do, but one of the aesthetic plusses in
> starting again from scratch is that (I thought) I could dispense with
> the nnnil select method and just have a nnimap primary select method
> and no secondaries... Oh well. You are right, though. My problems
> are solved by using nnimap as a secondary select method. Thanks!
This is very puzzling, but it is good to have the bug isolated. I'm
afraid I don't have time to debug this right not though... if someone
likes to, I could try to help.
OTOH this primary/secondary/foreign/etc distinction is confusing in
general. Maybe it will disappear in No Gnus, then this problem will
probably go away too.
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