* Re: Messages appearing unread. [not found] <87vfwi70bx.fsf@cam.ac.uk> @ 2003-05-11 4:39 ` Gaute B Strokkenes [not found] ` <84k7cvco9p.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-05-11 4:39 UTC (permalink / raw) On 11 mai 2003, gs234@cam.ac.uk wrote: >[1] At least I _think_ it only happens to one group. It's pretty >high volume, so I usually notice when there's no new mail. It could >be happening to lower volume groups as well without me noticing, >although I've been pretty paranoid about this lately. Well, I've now seen it happen somewhere else as well. I moved some messages from nnml:mail.misc to itself, and immediately noticed how the unread count did not go up. Sure enough, the previously unread messages were now read ("O."). This is pretty scary. -- Big Gaute http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ I am a traffic light, and Alan Ginsberg kidnapped my laundry in 1927! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Messages appearing unread. [not found] ` <87llx8oa1z.fsf@cam.ac.uk> @ 2003-05-15 11:40 ` Kai Großjohann 2003-05-15 12:30 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-05-15 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw) Gaute B Strokkenes <gs234@cam.ac.uk> writes: > On 15 mai 2003, kai.grossjohann@gmx.net wrote: >>> ((seen >>> (1 . 1060) >>> (1077 . 4105) >>> (4190 . 4191) >>> 54615 54629 54720) >> >> And this seems to tell us that messages 4190 through 4191 have been >> seen, and also that 54615 54629 54720 have been seen. Those latter >> numbers are pretty weird. Do you have files corresponding to these >> numbers? > > No--If I enter the group and turn of threading, then the last message > has number 4268 according to the mode line. Well. Hm. Please have a look on disk, without Gnus. Also look in the .overview file in the directory for that group -- does it have entries in the 50,000 range? Also, please have a look at the active file (~/Mail/active, perhaps) to see what that says for the group in question. And then, if the 50,000 numbers don't appear anywhere else, you might wish to `G E' on the group and remove them, to see if that helps. I don't fully grok Gnus, I just know enough to be suspicious when I find strange numbers that don't correspond to the messages that actually exist. Suspicious of dragons, in fact. -- This line is not blank. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Messages appearing unread. 2003-05-15 11:40 ` Kai Großjohann @ 2003-05-15 12:30 ` Gaute B Strokkenes [not found] ` <84znlo8d9j.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-05-15 12:30 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15 mai 2003, kai.grossjohann@gmx.net wrote: > Gaute B Strokkenes <gs234@cam.ac.uk> writes: > >> On 15 mai 2003, kai.grossjohann@gmx.net wrote: >>>> ((seen >>>> (1 . 1060) >>>> (1077 . 4105) >>>> (4190 . 4191) >>>> 54615 54629 54720) >>> >>> And this seems to tell us that messages 4190 through 4191 have >>> been seen, and also that 54615 54629 54720 have been seen. Those >>> latter numbers are pretty weird. Do you have files corresponding >>> to these numbers? >> >> No--If I enter the group and turn of threading, then the last >> message has number 4268 according to the mode line. > > Well. Hm. Please have a look on disk, without Gnus. Also look in > the .overview file in the directory for that group -- does it have > entries in the 50,000 range? No, the entries are all decently-numbered below the 5000 range. > Also, please have a look at the active file (~/Mail/active, perhaps) > to see what that says for the group in question. Looks like you're on to something: ((read (1 . 1594) (1596 . 1622) (1624 . 1630) ... (4227 . 4235) (4237 . 4278) (4280 . 54614) < (54616 . 54628) < (54630 . 54719)) < (tick (71 . 287) (354 . 361) (582 . 583) (627 . 657) 668 911 (1865 . 1867) 1869 1871 1873 1875 1888 (1938 . 1939) 1950 1965 (1968 . 1969) 2019 2188 2421 2526 2530) (expire 1940 1953 2386 2389 2556 2586)) > And then, if the 50,000 numbers don't appear anywhere else, you > might wish to `G E' on the group and remove them, to see if that > helps. I'll try that now, thanks. > I don't fully grok Gnus, I just know enough to be suspicious when I > find strange numbers that don't correspond to the messages that > actually exist. Suspicious of dragons, in fact. Here is a snippet from the *Messages* buffer, when I just started Gnus: --8<-- Wrote /home/gs234/Mail/gnu/bug-emacs/564 Wrote /home/gs234/Mail/debian/devel/4292 Wrote /home/gs234/Mail/debian/devel/4293 Wrote /home/gs234/Mail/gnu/bug-utils/1637 Wrote /home/gs234/Mail/debian/devel/4294 nnml: Reading incoming mail from imap... --8<-- As you can see, the most recent message is the just-arrived 4294. When I do `G E' on debian.devel, I get: ("nnml:debian.devel" 3 ((1 . 1594) (1596 . 1622) ... (4221 . 4225) (4227 . 4235) (4237 . 4278) (4280 . 4294)) ^^^^ ((expire 1940 1953 2386 2389 2556 2586) (tick (71 . 287) (354 . 361) (582 . 583) (627 . 657) 668 911 (1865 . 1867) 1869 1871 1873 1875 1888 (1938 . 1939) 1950 1965 (1968 . 1969) 2019 2188 2421 2526 2530) (seen (1 . 1060) (1077 . 4280) ^^^^ 54615 54629 54720)) "nnml:") So something is definitely munging this. Notice how articles 4281-4294 are read, but unseen. I take it that to repair this I ought to simply delete any bits that have numbers with ~54xxx in them? -- Big Gaute http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ My Aunt MAUREEN was a military advisor to IKE & TINA TURNER!! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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* Re: Messages appearing unread. [not found] ` <84znlo8d9j.fsf@lucy.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> @ 2003-05-15 23:18 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 2003-05-17 12:17 ` Kai Großjohann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-05-15 23:18 UTC (permalink / raw) On 15 mai 2003, kai.grossjohann@gmx.net wrote: > Gaute B Strokkenes <gs234@cam.ac.uk> writes: > >> Notice how articles 4281-4294 are read, but unseen. > > This seems bad. > >> I take it that to repair this I ought to simply delete any bits >> that have numbers with ~54xxx in them? > > That would be a first attempt. How do I go about it? Do I shut down Gnus and edit .newsrc.eld, and .marks simultaneously? Or is it sufficient to use `G E' ? > If that doesn't work, you may have to go for M-x > gnus-group-clear-data RET. But that removes all marks. -- Big Gaute http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ I think I'll make SCRAMBLED EGGS!! They're each in LITTLE SHELLS.. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Messages appearing unread. 2003-05-15 23:18 ` Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-05-17 12:17 ` Kai Großjohann 2003-05-21 15:36 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2003-05-17 12:17 UTC (permalink / raw) Gaute B Strokkenes <gs234@cam.ac.uk> writes: > How do I go about it? Do I shut down Gnus and edit .newsrc.eld, > and .marks simultaneously? Or is it sufficient to use `G E' ? The former appears better. I'm afraid that `G E' might not propagate to the .marks file. I had completely forgotten about the .marks file. Hm. Maybe this can be implemented somehow. -- This line is not blank. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
* Re: Messages appearing unread. 2003-05-17 12:17 ` Kai Großjohann @ 2003-05-21 15:36 ` Gaute B Strokkenes 0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread From: Gaute B Strokkenes @ 2003-05-21 15:36 UTC (permalink / raw) On 17 mai 2003, kai.grossjohann@gmx.net wrote: > Gaute B Strokkenes <gs234@cam.ac.uk> writes: > >> How do I go about it? Do I shut down Gnus and edit .newsrc.eld, >> and .marks simultaneously? Or is it sufficient to use `G E' ? > > The former appears better. Thanks! I followed your advise, and I the problem appears to have ceased. Now, if only I could get nnimap to play nicely with tls, everything would be hunky-dory... > I'm afraid that `G E' might not propagate to the .marks file. I had > completely forgotten about the .marks file. Hm. Maybe this can be > implemented somehow. -- Gaute Strokkenes http://www.srcf.ucam.org/~gs234/ TATTOOED MIDGETS are using ALFREDO in their SALAMI FACTORY! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread
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