* Re: Gnusbie questions? [not found] ` <uwuqh5hnq.fsf@postbox-lax.iccinternet.com> @ 2002-08-24 0:33 ` Vasily Korytov [not found] ` <usn1559xe.fsf@postbox-lax.iccinternet.com> 0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread From: Vasily Korytov @ 2002-08-24 0:33 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "RVM" == Richard V Molen writes: RVM> Perhaps, I've been the victim of 'just trying to get a quick RVM> start'. You're lucky, you got so far. First time I saw Emacs (that was GNU Emacs 19.3x, I believe) it seemed to me an editor with unusable defaults. =)) Well, things are going more user-friendly and that's good. But anyway, I think, Gnus manual is worth reading. RVM> However, the documentation can be difficult reading RVM> because I am not familiar with the some of the terminology. For RVM> instance, I thought that gnus left the mail on the server instead RVM> of downloading it to my hard drive. But I guess "fetching mail" RVM> means to download it rather than 'show me it to me, but leave it RVM> on the server.' ``Fetching mail'' means getting it, I believe. RVM> I want the mail to be left on the server. Frankly, I don't know, it's possible with Gnus (I don't use similar functinality at all, so I mostly ignore related threads). But you surely can use a different utility to download mail (say, fetchmail+procmail combo IMHO should work under Cygwin) to a place, where Gnus can read it. Maybe you should search the archives of this newsgroup for the answer, how to accompish it. RVM> Perhaps you are right, but on my WinNT box running Emacs 21.2 RVM> C-h v gnus-inhibit-startup-message <ret> gives me... RVM> gnus-inhibit-startup-message's value is t RVM> Documentation: RVM> not documented as a variable. Probably, your Gnus is not yet loaded. Start Gnus and try again. On my system it's as follows: ,----[ C-h v gnus-inhibit-startup-message RET ] | `gnus-inhibit-startup-message' is a variable declared in Lisp. | -- loaded from "gnus" | | Value: nil | | Documentation: | If non-nil, the startup message will not be displayed. | This variable is used before `.gnus.el' is loaded, so it should | be set in `.emacs' instead. `---- RVM> Vasily, thanks for your response. You're always welcome! =)) -- With respect, Vasily Korytov PGP key fingerprint: A4FE 4665 A720 687F 4ECC 1474 7C16 C498 BAAB C999 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 2+ messages in thread
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* Re: Gnusbie questions? [not found] ` <usn1559xe.fsf@postbox-lax.iccinternet.com> @ 2002-08-24 2:18 ` Vasily Korytov 0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread From: Vasily Korytov @ 2002-08-24 2:18 UTC (permalink / raw) >>>>> "RVM" == Richard V Molen writes: RVM> But how does mail-sources settings affect nnmail settings? RVM> (setq RVM> nnmail-spool-file "po:loginname" ;Login RVM> nnmail-pop-password-required t ;Password RVM> mail-host-address "pop3server.isp.com" ;Incoming mail RVM> ) I think, you don't need any of these anymore. Try to comment them all out. Probably, the quoted above variables make Gnus using movemail (a separate executable; that one was asking you a password =), not its native facilities for POP3 (I think, there's no reason of using the first one, except for, maybe, speed -- but on modern machines it doesn't matter), but I'm not sure. >> Maybe you should search the archives of this newsgroup for the answer, >> how to accompish it. RVM> I guess that's next, I've found some stuff at RVM> www.gnu.org/software/emacs/windows/big.html NTEmacs FAQ RVM> www.ccs.neu.edu/software/contrib/gnus/ gnus FAQ RVM> my.gnus.org/ for Gnus newbies RVM> Maybe 'google'ing or 'kibozing'? Yes. Google (the successor of dejanews) keeps a nice archive. So, you can search this group for ``keep mail on pop server'' or whatever. Usenet is a valuable source of information, so I consider its archives a very good thing. =)) RVM> Apparently, to keep stuff on the server I must setup to use RMAIL RVM> or VM? I don't use any of these, so I can't definitely say. I can definitely say, that in the Unix world (I think, that's still the main developement area of Emacs in general and Gnus and VM specifically; As for RMAIL -- I think, it's an older thingie) POP mail fetching is often considered to be a buisiness of a separate program, not mail reader's. Good examples of fetching programs are fetchmail (former popclient) and gwpop. First one runs under Windows, but only in environment called Cygwin -- kinda Un*x emulator; second one is written in Perl and IMHO it's worth looking at, but I've never used it, so I cannot tell much here. I don't say, it's the only way to fetch your mail from POP servers, but you can surely try this, if Gnus does not support leaving mail on servers (sorry again, I don't know it and quick search on docs gave nothing). -- With respect, Vasily Korytov PGP key fingerprint: A4FE 4665 A720 687F 4ECC 1474 7C16 C498 BAAB C999 ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 2+ messages in thread
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