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In-Reply-To: <87o7soz7k8.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Wed, 30 Nov 2022 09:16:39 -0800") Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2022 15:19:30 -0300 Message-ID: <87tu2g71al.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87bkotz7r9.fsf@sekai.mail-host-address-is-not-set> <87tu2hzi2a.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87wn7dzal4.fsf@gmail.com> <87o7soz7k8.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.2 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4860:4864:20::32; envelope-from=fernandodemorais.jf@gmail.com; helo=mail-oa1-x32.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Hello Eric, Eric Abrahamsen writes: > Apparently it's not using the same parameter names as everyone else, > because nnmaildir lets the user put arbitrary Lisp expressions in as > values -- it runs the values through `eval' at Gnus startup time. I > think the idea is that, because the parameter values are handled > differently, the parameter names should be different. > > This doesn't particularly make sense, and the use of `eval' in regular > code is pretty heavily discouraged these days. This code seems to have > been in nnmaildir.el since The Dawn of Time, and I'm sure that at one > point someone depended heavily on being able to `eval' their parameter > values. Understood. Eric Abrahamsen writes: > It would be relatively simple to fix: we could leave the existing > handling of nnmaildir's own parameters in place, but also start > retrieving the normal expiry parameters, using Gnus' regular > `gnus-group-parameter-*' functions. I'm glad to know that the implementation would be more or less simple. I'll check the `gnus-group-parameter-*' functions and try to play with `nnmaildir' with this idea in mind. Thanks! -- Regards, Fernando de Morais.