From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 1583 invoked from network); 6 Oct 2021 14:42:25 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 6 Oct 2021 14:42:25 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1]:52032 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mY87j-0004a2-JC for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 10:42:23 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38898) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mY87g-0004Zr-Fh for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 10:42:20 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:44112) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mY87e-0000qi-PB for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 10:42:20 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mY87Z-000A8R-Ky for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2021 16:42:13 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org From: Eric Abrahamsen Subject: Re: synchronizing gnus sessions on multiple computers Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2021 07:42:05 -0700 Message-ID: <87tuhu43lu.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <875yv9nxnn.fsf@gnu.org> <87pmtgn106.fsf@t14.reltub.ca> <87czpgku8w.fsf@gnu.org> <87k0joqew2.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87ee8ydbel.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/29.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:djYzA5bjDGeVBaFDTRRG2MISxlY= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: -16 X-Spam_score: -1.7 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.7 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" "Roland Winkler" writes: > On Fri, Sep 10 2021, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >> Yes, the .newsrc.eld file only gets written when you save Gnus ("s" in >> the *Group* buffer), and I would absolutely not try to update files for >> a Gnus that's still running, it will not handle that gracefully. It >> should, however, be enough to shut Gnus down first (you can see the >> `gnus-clear-system' function to see what happens then), rsync, then >> restart Gnus. > > Thanks, it took me a while to get back to this. It seems that > `gnus-clear-system' / quitting gnus is missing > `gnus-save-newsrc-file-last-timestamp'. Quitting gnus, then rsync'ing > gnus followed by a restart of gnus will use .newsrc.eld file from the > other machine. But when this .newsrc.eld file is saved again, the > timestamp of the file on disk is compared against the old timestamp of > the old file that's already gone. > > I submitted a bug report (bug#51052). And it looks like it's already fixed! Thanks a lot for doing that -- there's so much uncertainty and magical thinking around Gnus' behavior, it's good to get one step closer to reliability.