Re: Spam despite spam header

From: Emanuel Berg <embe8573@student.uu.se>
To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Spam despite spam header
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2013 23:40:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87vbyvggdp.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8964.1386793377.10748.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>

asjo@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

>> Of course, but it doesn't do much good if the
>> headers are only inserted and that will be that,
>> does it?
>
> What else do you propose should(/suppose would)
> happen?

I'd like them to be deleted. But I can do that manually
once in a while if it comes to that. To have the spam
separated from instead of *in* mail.misc is a huge
improvement.

> If the mailserver deleted the email, you would be
> quite angry in case it misdetected non-spam as
> spam...

Yeah, but I don't think I'll look into the "spam"
group/directory to doublecheck anyway, so is there a
difference in practice?

>> (setq nnmail-split-methods
>>       '(("spam" "^X-Spam-Flag: YES")
>>         ("mail.misc" "") ))
>
> I use fancy splitting, but yes, that looks about
> right comparing to the documentation. The examples do
> not start with ^, so you may want to try without it

Isn't that a regexp special char for "start of line"?

> You can test where an existing email would be split
> to by pressing B q when looking at it.
>
> And you can get Gnus to put it where the splitting
> rules say by pressing B r.

OK, I'll test that.

>> I hope I won't get them in a directory called
>> "spam", now!
>
> Why? Wouldn't the point be to separate them out from
> the non-spam email?  Where would you like them to go?
> Remember that spam classification isn't perfect.

Come to think of it, I guess I could keep them.

>> I tested sending a mail to myself with "X-Spam-Flag:
>> YES" as a header, but it was delivered to mail.misc,
>> and the header had been removed.  Perhaps
>> SpamAssassin thought that wasn't spam, and I got
>> overruled.
>
> Yeah, otherwise spammers would just set "X-Spam-Flag:
> NO" - so usually mail servers that run SpamAssassin
> will remove any of those headers, before adding what
> the mail server itself thinks.

Ha ha ha, Spam: NO :) Yes, that makes sense.

-- 
Emanuel Berg, programmer-for-rent. CV, projects, etc at uXu
underground experts united:  http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573
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