From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16135 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: wgreenhouse-sGOZH3hwPm2sTnJN9+BGXg@public.gmane.org (W. Greenhouse) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Setting up gnus: read on local, store remote (but not on mailserver) Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:06:40 +0000 Message-ID: <87vc9gxabj.fsf@riseup.net> References: <5896e2dc-a264-4ea7-b250-9e95cfaf01a2@googlegroups.com> <0afcb7dc-9d2d-45cd-96a1-60ae6ae00bd5@googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1361833631 24970 80.91.229.3 (25 Feb 2013 23:07:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2013 23:07:11 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Tue Feb 26 00:07:34 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UA78t-0000gN-G4 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:07:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34850 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA78Y-0008OH-H7 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:07:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42481) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA78U-0008MJ-TF for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:07:09 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA78S-00057V-Dj for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:07:06 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:36102) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UA78S-00057L-7Y for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Mon, 25 Feb 2013 18:07:04 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UA78g-0000Ux-9o for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:07:18 +0100 Original-Received: from 199.48.147.39 ([199.48.147.39]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:07:18 +0100 Original-Received: from wgreenhouse by 199.48.147.39 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 26 Feb 2013 00:07:18 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 33 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.48.147.39 X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:g+i43FizIfBwNPbBgezBvHBkgQQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16135 Archived-At: supermiri123-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org writes: >> To answer your last question first: If only one Emacs machine will ever >> be the client in this setup, and you are not using an external utility >> like offlineimap or fetchmail directly on the mailbox, you could get >> away with using nnml over TRAMP. The advantage of nnmaildir is that, >> unlike MH-style mailboxes like nnml, the maildir layout is designed to >> be suitable for non-locking use, i.e. reading mail even as another >> program is putting stuff into the inbox. Therefore it's an excellent >> choice for a mailbox hosted on a central server for multiple clients to >> use. > > OK, since it is indeed the case that only one emacs at a time will be > client, I will stick with nnml. At least this has the advantage that > I can simply copy the old mail archive then. > > I guess that one drawback of the whole setup will be that > regexp-searching mail articles will become much slower, right? After > all, emacs will have to fetch each message / file separately via ssh, > check whether it matches... Well, I'll see... Yeah, for searches within the message body, anyway. Header searches like / a should be close to the same speed, because Gnus loads up the news overview file for the mailbox when you enter the group. > > Many thanks for your help! > > Martin -- Regards, WGG