Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

Hello,

I looked in various manuals, but I did not find a way to post easily
in Usenet groups using Gnus. However, it is the primary role of Gnus.
When I use Groups > Subscribe > Subscribe to a group, typing the
Usenet group (i.e. here ``gnu.emacs.gnus'') does not work. How can I
manage to make it work, and, evidently, being conserved through Gnus'
shutdowns and restarts?

Thanks.

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[CHENG Gao]

*On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT)
* Also sprach Merciadri Luca <merciadriluca@gmail.com>:

> Hello,
>
> I looked in various manuals, but I did not find a way to post easily
> in Usenet groups using Gnus. However, it is the primary role of Gnus.
> When I use Groups > Subscribe > Subscribe to a group, typing the
> Usenet group (i.e. here ``gnu.emacs.gnus'') does not work. How can I
> manage to make it work, and, evidently, being conserved through Gnus'
> shutdowns and restarts?
>
> Thanks.

Something like:

(setq  gnus-secondary-select-methods  '((nntp "news.gmane.org")))

in your .gnus.el.
(Change news server to yours).

Start Gnus, in *Group* buffer type "^" to open *Server* buffer. Browse
group list of your news server, and press "u" to subscribe to groups.

In any group, press "a" to post new message, "f" to follow up, and "F"
to followup and yank.

These are all in Gnus manual.


-- 
The enemies of Freedom do not argue; they shout and they shoot.

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

On 1 août, 15:28, CHENG Gao <cheng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 04:28:21 -0700 (PDT)
> * Also sprach Merciadri Luca <merciadril...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I looked in various manuals, but I did not find a way to post easily
> > in Usenet groups using Gnus. However, it is the primary role of Gnus.
> > When I use Groups > Subscribe > Subscribe to a group, typing the
> > Usenet group (i.e. here ``gnu.emacs.gnus'') does not work. How can I
> > manage to make it work, and, evidently, being conserved through Gnus'
> > shutdowns and restarts?
>
> > Thanks.
>
> Something like:
>
> (setq  gnus-secondary-select-methods  '((nntp "news.gmane.org")))
>
> in your .gnus.el.
> (Change news server to yours).
>
> Start Gnus, in *Group* buffer type "^" to open *Server* buffer. Browse
> group list of your news server, and press "u" to subscribe to groups.
>
> In any group, press "a" to post new message, "f" to follow up, and "F"
> to followup and yank.
>
> These are all in Gnus manual.
>
> --
> The enemies of Freedom do not argue; they shout and they shoot.

Thanks. It was clear, not like in the manual.

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:39:33 -0700 (PDT), Merciadri wrote:

> Thanks. It was clear, not like in the manual.

Could you possibly point out where you were expecting to find the bits
of information you couldn't?

Preferably in the form of patches to the manual.

Thanks for helping!


  Best regards,

     Adam

-- 
 "Boy, I love summer vacation.                                Adam Sjøgren
  I can feel my brain beginning to atrophy already."     asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

@CHENG Gao: I do not have a Server buffer available through typing "^"
in the Group buffer. I thus cannot retrieve all the groups which would
be proposed. Is there a solution?

On 1 août, 15:58, a...@koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 06:39:33 -0700 (PDT), Merciadri wrote:
> > Thanks. It was clear, not like in the manual.
>
> Could you possibly point out where you were expecting to find the bits
> of information you couldn't?

Simply in section 1.5.2 of the manual located at: http://www.gnus.org/manual/gnus.pdf.
I think that it is a personal suggestion, and it seems not to be
interesting.

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

@CHENG Gao: I managed to display available groups on your server using
Gnus > Browse Foreign Server. It seems that we are not using the same
version of Gnu: I have v5.11. And you? Thanks.

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
not to show them. Thanks.

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Adam Sjøgren]

On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT), Merciadri wrote:

> Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane?

Gmane is an archive of mailing lists (which you can access via nntp),
not a news server - you won't find any usenet groups on Gmane.

> For example, I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I
> did not find them out. Is it normal?

Quite.


  Best regards,

    Adam

-- 
 "So this is what being a morning person is like, I          Adam Sjøgren
  thought. It's like being 80 years old."                asjo@koldfront.dk

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[CHENG Gao]

*On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
* Also sprach Merciadri Luca <merciadriluca@gmail.com>:

> Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
> I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
> them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
> not to show them. Thanks.

I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.

Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
hosted here.

As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
mentioned. And posting is allowed.

You can use sites like http://newzbot.com to find news servers carrying
your groups, and compare the speed.

I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching. 

Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.


-- 
Numquam minus solus quam cum solus

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao <cheng...@gmail.com> wrote:
> *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
> * Also sprach Merciadri Luca <merciadril...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
> > I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
> > them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
> > not to show them. Thanks.
>
> I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.
>
> Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
> hosted here.
>
> As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
> Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
> mentioned. And posting is allowed.
>
> You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comto find news servers carrying
> your groups, and compare the speed.
>
> I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
> faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
> my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching.
>
> Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
> long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
> in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
> archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.
>
> --
> Numquam minus solus quam cum solus

Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-)

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

On Aug 2, 12:08 am, Merciadri Luca <merciadril...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao <cheng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
> > * Also sprach Merciadri Luca <merciadril...@gmail.com>:
>
> > > Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
> > > I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
> > > them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
> > > not to show them. Thanks.
>
> > I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.
>
> > Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
> > hosted here.
>
> > As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
> > Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
> > mentioned. And posting is allowed.
>
> > You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comtofind news servers carrying
> > your groups, and compare the speed.
>
> > I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
> > faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
> > my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching.
>
> > Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
> > long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
> > in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
> > archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.
>
> > --
> > Numquam minus solus quam cum solus
>
> Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-)

It seems anyway pretty difficult to find servers which allow posting!
Isn't it?

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[CHENG Gao]

*On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT)
* Also sprach Merciadri Luca <merciadriluca@gmail.com>:

> On Aug 2, 12:08 am, Merciadri Luca <merciadril...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao <cheng...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> > *On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 11:33:31 -0700 (PDT)
>> > * Also sprach Merciadri Luca <merciadril...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> > > Is there a better alternative than the well-known gmane? For example,
>> > > I wanted to find comp.sys.hp48, and gnu.emacs.gnus, and I did not find
>> > > them out. Is it normal? I verified it on their website, and they seem
>> > > not to show them. Thanks.
>>
>> > I build Emacs from git source. It has Gnus 5.13.
>>
>> > Gmane is a mailing list to news gateway. Most Emacs related group are
>> > hosted here.
>>
>> > As for two groups you mentioned, you can use news.cn99.com. It's a free
>> > Chinese news server carrying many groups, including two groups you
>> > mentioned. And posting is allowed.
>>
>> > You can use sites likehttp://newzbot.comtofind news servers carrying
>> > your groups, and compare the speed.
>>
>> > I use leafnode (local news server) to connect to news servers. It's must
>> > faster to read with Gnus. Another benefit is I can archive messages in
>> > my computer for easy access, esp. easy searching.
>>
>> > Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
>> > long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
>> > in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
>> > archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.
>>
>> > --
>> > Numquam minus solus quam cum solus
>>
>> Thanks for your answers. My problem is now solved. :-)
>
> It seems anyway pretty difficult to find servers which allow posting!
> Isn't it?

I dont know. Anyway you can find some.

BTW, gmane.emacs.gnus.user seems the same group as gnu.emacs.gnus. So
you can use news.gmane.org to post to this group.

-- 
Homo sum, humani being nil a me alienum puto

Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Merciadri Luca]

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Okay. I'll take it into account. BTW, I am very satisfied of news.sunsite.dk. It was exactly what I
wanted. 
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Re: Posting on Usenet groups using Gnus

[Francis Moreau]

Hello,

On 1 août, 21:27, CHENG Gao <cheng...@gmail.com> wrote:

[...]

> Most news servers (maybe all except for Gamen?) have retention not so
> long, so you can read only recent messages. If you need to dig something
> in the history, you need to use web like Goole groups (only if they are
> archived). I'd rather archive them in my own box.

Do you have any hints to 'import' articles from google into gnus ?

Thanks