* virtual newsgroups
@ 2007-12-28 13:42 Andrzej Adam Filip
2007-12-28 23:44 ` reader
2007-12-29 11:49 ` Reiner Steib
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2007-12-28 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Is it possible in gnus to create virtual newsgroups based on google
groups searches?
e.g. I would like to create "virtual newsgroup" with posts about
sendmail in comp.* hierarchy (except comp.mail.sendmail).
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[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@priv.onet.pl : anfi@xl.wp.pl
What upsets me is not that you lied to me, but that from now on I can no
longer believe you.
-- Nietzsche
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* Re: virtual newsgroups
2007-12-28 13:42 virtual newsgroups Andrzej Adam Filip
@ 2007-12-28 23:44 ` reader
2007-12-29 11:49 ` Reiner Steib
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From: reader @ 2007-12-28 23:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
> Is it possible in gnus to create virtual newsgroups based on google
> groups searches?
>
> e.g. I would like to create "virtual newsgroup" with posts about
> sendmail in comp.* hierarchy (except comp.mail.sendmail).
I hope someone will have more than this for you but just in case I
suggest you look into nnkiboze. It would do what you want aimed at
regular nntp targets but not sure how it would do with google.
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* Re: virtual newsgroups
2007-12-28 13:42 virtual newsgroups Andrzej Adam Filip
2007-12-28 23:44 ` reader
@ 2007-12-29 11:49 ` Reiner Steib
2007-12-29 20:42 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2007-12-29 11:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On Fri, Dec 28 2007, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
> Is it possible in gnus to create virtual newsgroups based on google
> groups searches?
You probably want `C-u G w'...
,----[ (info "(gnus)Foreign Groups") ]
| `G w'
| Make an ephemeral group based on a web search
| (`gnus-group-make-web-group'). If you give a prefix to this
| command, make a solid group instead. You will be prompted for the
| search engine type and the search string. Valid search engine
| types include `google', `dejanews', and `gmane'. *Note Web
| Searches::.
|
| If you use the `google' search engine, you can limit the search to
| a particular group by using a match string like `shaving
| group:alt.sysadmin.recovery'.
`----
> e.g. I would like to create "virtual newsgroup" with posts about
> sendmail in comp.* hierarchy (except comp.mail.sendmail).
I'm not sure if it's possible to specify such a search string.
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: virtual newsgroups
2007-12-29 11:49 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2007-12-29 20:42 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
2007-12-30 18:54 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2007-12-29 20:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Fri, Dec 28 2007, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>
>> Is it possible in gnus to create virtual newsgroups based on google
>> groups searches?
>
> You probably want `C-u G w'...
>
> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Foreign Groups") ]
> | `G w'
> | Make an ephemeral group based on a web search
> | (`gnus-group-make-web-group'). If you give a prefix to this
> | command, make a solid group instead. You will be prompted for the
> | search engine type and the search string. Valid search engine
> | types include `google', `dejanews', and `gmane'. *Note Web
> | Searches::.
> |
> | If you use the `google' search engine, you can limit the search to
> | a particular group by using a match string like `shaving
> | group:alt.sysadmin.recovery'.
> `----
>
>> e.g. I would like to create "virtual newsgroup" with posts about
>> sendmail in comp.* hierarchy (except comp.mail.sendmail).
>
> I'm not sure if it's possible to specify such a search string.
>
> Bye, Reiner.
The search string is easy "sendmail -group:comp.mail.sendmail".
It is "almost right" except:
1) I would like to limit "time span" of searches to 1 day or 1 week
[ extra as_qdr=d or as_qdr=w parameter in google URL ]
It seems to require trivial change in nnweb-google-search in nnweb.el
2) How to make the virtual group *permanent*?
It "vanishes" quickly from groups buffer.
--
[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@priv.onet.pl : anfi@xl.wp.pl
We fight only when there is no other choice. We prefer the ways of
peaceful contact.
-- Kirk, "Spectre of the Gun", stardate 4385.3
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* Re: virtual newsgroups
2007-12-29 20:42 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
@ 2007-12-30 18:54 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
2007-12-30 21:24 ` Tassilo Horn
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2007-12-30 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 28 2007, Andrzej Adam Filip wrote:
>>
>>> Is it possible in gnus to create virtual newsgroups based on google
>>> groups searches?
>>
>> You probably want `C-u G w'...
>>
>> ,----[ (info "(gnus)Foreign Groups") ]
>> | `G w'
>> | Make an ephemeral group based on a web search
>> | (`gnus-group-make-web-group'). If you give a prefix to this
>> | command, make a solid group instead. You will be prompted for the
>> | search engine type and the search string. Valid search engine
>> | types include `google', `dejanews', and `gmane'. *Note Web
>> | Searches::.
>> |
>> | If you use the `google' search engine, you can limit the search to
>> | a particular group by using a match string like `shaving
>> | group:alt.sysadmin.recovery'.
>> `----
>>
>>> e.g. I would like to create "virtual newsgroup" with posts about
>>> sendmail in comp.* hierarchy (except comp.mail.sendmail).
>>
>> I'm not sure if it's possible to specify such a search string.
>>
>> Bye, Reiner.
>
> The search string is easy "sendmail -group:comp.mail.sendmail".
>
> It is "almost right" except:
> 1) I would like to limit "time span" of searches to 1 day or 1 week [
> extra as_qdr=d or as_qdr=w parameter in google URL ] It seems to
> require trivial change in nnweb-google-search in nnweb.el
Is it possible to "overwrite" (defun nnweb-google-search ...) from
nnweb.el in ~/.gnus ?
> 2) How to make the virtual group *permanent*?
> It "vanishes" quickly from groups buffer.
It is visible in *next* emacs/gnus session.
--
[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@priv.onet.pl : anfi@xl.wp.pl
Experience is that marvelous thing that enables you recognize a mistake
when you make it again.
-- Franklin P. Jones
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* Re: virtual newsgroups
2007-12-30 18:54 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
@ 2007-12-30 21:24 ` Tassilo Horn
2008-01-01 12:22 ` Reiner Steib
[not found] ` <mailman.5519.1199051121.18990.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
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From: Tassilo Horn @ 2007-12-30 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
Hi Andrzej,
> Is it possible to "overwrite" (defun nnweb-google-search ...) from
> nnweb.el in ~/.gnus ?
Yes, simply define it anew. And be sure to put a (require 'nnweb)
before your defun, so that the `nnweb-google-search' of nnweb.el really
gets overwritten.
Bye,
Tassilo
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* Re: virtual newsgroups
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@ 2007-12-30 22:45 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2007-12-30 22:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Tassilo Horn <tassilo@member.fsf.org> writes:
> Andrzej Adam Filip <anfi@onet.eu> writes:
>> Is it possible to "overwrite" (defun nnweb-google-search ...) from
>> nnweb.el in ~/.gnus ?
>
> Yes, simply define it anew. And be sure to put a (require 'nnweb)
> before your defun, so that the `nnweb-google-search' of nnweb.el really
> gets overwritten.
It "almost" works :-)
OK : Sort by date (scoring=d)
NOK: limiting usenet searches to last week by *adding one* argument to
"GET" URL
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[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@priv.onet.pl : anfi@xl.wp.pl
Most people in this society who aren't actively mad are, at best,
reformed or potential lunatics.
-- Susan Sontag
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* Re: virtual newsgroups
2007-12-30 21:24 ` Tassilo Horn
@ 2008-01-01 12:22 ` Reiner Steib
2008-01-01 12:57 ` virtual newsgroups [google searches] Andrzej Adam Filip
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From: Reiner Steib @ 2008-01-01 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On Sun, Dec 30 2007, Tassilo Horn wrote:
> Yes, simply define it anew. And be sure to put a (require 'nnweb)
> before your defun, so that the `nnweb-google-search' of nnweb.el really
> gets overwritten.
It would be nice to define a new method (a modification of "google")
to `nnweb-type-definition' or to add proper customization of the query
parameters. Volunteers? ;-)
Bye, Reiner.
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* Re: virtual newsgroups [google searches]
2008-01-01 12:22 ` Reiner Steib
@ 2008-01-01 12:57 ` Andrzej Adam Filip
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From: Andrzej Adam Filip @ 2008-01-01 12:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> writes:
> On Sun, Dec 30 2007, Tassilo Horn wrote:
>
>> Yes, simply define it anew. And be sure to put a (require 'nnweb)
>> before your defun, so that the `nnweb-google-search' of nnweb.el really
>> gets overwritten.
>
> It would be nice to define a new method (a modification of "google")
> to `nnweb-type-definition' or to add proper customization of the query
> parameters. Volunteers? ;-)
IMHO doing it *properly* would require "filling" form provided at:
http://groups.google.com/advanced_search
In particular the form sets a few "default values"
e.g. "age restrictions" seem to require max date
The current implementation simply generates "GET" url.
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[pl>en Andrew] Andrzej Adam Filip : anfi@priv.onet.pl : anfi@xl.wp.pl
True leadership is the art of changing a group from what it is to what
it ought to be.
-- Virginia Allan
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