From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/1967 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Jacobson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: many keys have preconceived notions that one reads downward Date: 26 Jan 2003 12:46:31 +0800 Message-ID: <87vg0c4ixk.fsf@jidanni.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138668567 13365 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 00:49:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:29:58 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!uio.no!feed.news.nacamar.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!tc210-203-46-83.3-17.pl.ebtnet.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: tc210-203-46-83.3-17.pl.ebtnet.net (210.203.46.83) Original-X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1043562660 30805902 210.203.46.83 (16 [99749]) X-Orig-Path: jidanni.org!news User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2 Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:2107 Original-Lines: 24 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 2107 Tue Jan 17 17:29:58 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:1967 Archived-At: > Challenge for Lars for a week: read messages starting at the bottom of > the buffer and advancing upwards with 'p'. You'll find that many keys > have preconceived notions that we are supposed to move down, like E. < Virtually all the commands work that way. < < Actually, this would be quite easy to fix, I think. All the < functions (eventually) call `gnus-summary-next-subject' and < `gnus-summary-prev-subject' to move to the next/prev article. There < could be a command to toggle which direction these two functions < actually moved -- then all the commands would (as if by magic) move < point in the opposite direction that they normally do. < Ok, but remember to be like one of those socket wrenches, where one can set it for forward, reverse, and stationary -- three settings. < Would that be useful, though? Hitting `n' and going to the next < message? `SPC' down to the end of the message and then read the < previous unread message? Sounds pretty dubious to me. What bugs me is that when I hit E it is possible for the cursor to jump 100s of messages forward, as it is looking for the next new message. -- http://jidanni.org/ Taiwan(04)25854780