From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 15726 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2023 11:31:52 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 4 Jul 2023 11:31:52 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qGeFv-00071C-Rw; Tue, 04 Jul 2023 07:31:39 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qGeFq-00070U-Lr for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2023 07:31:34 -0400 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1qGeFo-0003Rm-GW for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Jul 2023 07:31:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=s31663417; t=1688470276; x=1689075076; i=stephen.berman@gmx.net; bh=rm6G5McPDgdxmvebei8RtRUA4GMoDiwIhPJAbviPGIw=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date; b=N2DE94V864ic6kakBrcOKa09xN78Jsc89I2svSQ3+tMWE/k52KK6RSUEevHJDKF+ksSwcLs gz1Hq4gdF6RACxKRZNYhMiWEZoYeeZrYfRL3sdCOgnYE06xwavtherFq0N+8HfKs7gbbel8ZC ib5QMPrIt75ncHy54NLgcGg6lDnZY7hRtRWuDttCieAZALJ2j5z1t8i426hTYyLfVPMGcbRGm DI4e1b9ss15BzylJT4LCP06edU/OOQfHdjMT6ETds9voqGttWPXzie/jDBpNrVn9UMiG31QCZ aqNTVVb0B1WruDO3/4eaqfC/7Y0+T9rDp8eRn+rI6fspFmPpn8+w== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from strobelfssd ([89.246.36.24]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx004 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1N49lD-1pqlVq3nkH-0104Dx; Tue, 04 Jul 2023 13:31:15 +0200 From: Stephen Berman To: Eric Abrahamsen Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Subject: Re: Gnus fetch freezes emacs In-Reply-To: <87zg4dq7ed.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> (Eric Abrahamsen's message of "Mon, 03 Jul 2023 09:36:26 -0700") References: <87sfa9nhp4.fsf@gmail.com> <87ttuoeoej.fsf@gmx.net> <87mt0e1h0u.fsf@gmail.com> <87h6qlsw3n.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87o7ktjgmw.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zg4dq7ed.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2023 13:31:15 +0200 Message-ID: <87wmzfx69o.fsf@gmx.net> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lOrjwzQNjq7x7s2xpydqoL+9b3KtC1kRC6S2cejTgM9/9GJd4ti WjWhpZ3v3GDzogiZB4g/9q9Afd2YY0f+gZKMSLipg3owx0/MDD/RNcNtTQdd36xgClA0gRs Xn4KOUXBGz9rMuIaLImTQFN/l4DiaKWYMWyFe9BxKgQXhE+HdzxRfGiPdyQHBZnTzNEa0oh ntNCJg+NvnkOcM/ybu9FQ== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:yzbMqkiooA4=;lQybXf4X7J66c5Z7xN/YOPthwPe Yoym3Gp4+nfR/kMJ8lLjx74DwHEx9Vs9gU5POTVioalWx1fRb3O+DvW2MHf3y4md0eh1F+DuD CmEzLZ6A2jjWiIkSP7WsQTADRsVe1dJb67lH7eDNY3nbchEGnvF47k2ck3UOZiOOn0IddRE+J SFMFNUekGOQvStn/HGIAmK/jZldWpO5OZgj3fvBfqWc8myI4lYR+kMQIJX0XwMhRn6fUxhFkC LJoLrXSaXXc9fsFlrYkiHjjn/Ab8khw8aLrNAh0LMcT1LaXAVxeLqzQyRFOHLLmXus+mdhS5w Ckir/x6/hv/DX8V975BFeHlij9LL1JjWE0d5jc7fh1Gl3sc739/X8lLoIa0ZwTpZ/JgDxjjY3 tDDSKbJ1HEzHz4m1sdDj0lz7PpFBiV9P1mkljGiunXGQR67Kog5u2HQ9R/QG0n+nfGImKTzrS S8MPfEZcDWw3yLZs/8/kzAKWSlBRmzkwErb9GSns7Brv8HnwK2CZZoqMgJsQRvHFPqFi+irdf evLABzRHLwur1RIV14bahwA3xZ1ZbknUrvG9XtUPmwpQKolTp619c7GKLiXaHoeK3vUeIisQl McAsyCTE5oL7JQPR8uZ8u/HbVrHgpYAqB7+xqwClHsHuRKAefipsyA9iCOJCVpWn7yOVxBFtN fkQHbBlATF/shtCJ0rSc/h+y9EnFeEE3xwTQ983MNTm80b35y4U4uOPU8OALcSa+7/eJiTn88 5eqCBsKsPeAsqmQWkOyWHix2nH3eYtXrug36azXk2IjInmNI9WpGM3JzKE6X75CfXuJzZTZq3 761CgoJdWT3uHvcu3a9FOMIC5AELM5ZX4+2y2Zy8IZRsJouej4V1r+XYzMcdeXFC4BEhlMqLh AnRlomNNT0cY5TGceG+27n8bLbn2ZlArxtwUYoRwNDSia5sS0AYAllUEblawoDSILwCgmIxuv D/BG5mQkaIqqX6znEI4fRB4oz54= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=stephen.berman@gmx.net; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org On Mon, 03 Jul 2023 09:36:26 -0700 Eric Abrahamsen wrote: > Eric S Fraga writes: > >> On Sunday, 2 Jul 2023 at 16:59, Eric Abrahamsen wrote: >>> If everyone's hitting this with NNTP servers, you can set >>> `nntp-connection-timeout' to a number of seconds. It is nil by default, >>> which I guess would result in permanent hangs. Is this variable supposed to be set in the value of gnus-select-method? For example, like this: (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.gmane.io" (nntp-connection-timeout 3))) >> So this works, in the sense that it stops me waiting forever... However, >> it seems (early days yet) that when it fails to open the connection to >> an NNTP server, it stops retrieving news and I have to hit 'g' again to >> get the counts etc. updated for other servers. [...] That sounds basically like what the function I'm using in place of gnus-group-get-new-news (see my first post in this thread) does. Could such a function take effect if added to one of the server hook variables nntp-server-opened-hook, nntp-server-action-alist or nntp-open-connection-function? From the descriptions in the manual it isn't clear to me. Or is there some better Gnus hook variable for this purpose? If not could one be added? > Yeah, I'd put in a dumb fix for this that turned out to be buggy, so we > just recently reverted it. I have a more thorough fix in progress > somewhere here, that would report a server connection failure without > interrupting the rest of the servers, but it's not done yet. I've had > very little time for coding recently, but will get to it At Some Point. > > Glad it's at least better than it was. I wonder if we should have some > generous timeout set by default... It might make sense to continue this discussion in bug#52735. Steve Berman