From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17743 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Uwe Brauer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: S/MIME with OpenSSL? Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:38:03 +0000 Message-ID: <87wptolvus.fsf@mat.ucm.es> References: <87r3k0wjqx.fsf@informationelle-selbstbestimmung-im-internet.de> <87bnb1ztzc.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87io59leg0.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2264341119079842198==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1447234719 30057 80.91.229.3 (11 Nov 2015 09:38:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 11 Nov 2015 09:38:39 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 11 10:38:26 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwRrF-00048l-Nh for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:38:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38900 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwRrA-0003qv-65 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 04:38:20 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58439) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwRr4-0003qb-Ta for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 04:38:18 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwRr2-0004I7-6q for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 04:38:14 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:54432) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwRr1-0004HG-W1 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 04:38:12 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZwRr0-0003y7-29 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:38:10 +0100 Original-Received: from gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es ([147.96.12.99]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:38:10 +0100 Original-Received: from oub by gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 11 Nov 2015 10:38:10 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-Lines: 113 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: gilgamesch.quim.ucm.es Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.13001 (Ma Gnus v0.10) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:jWJvgleKWuQnk0q/++dDoO6IgE4= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17743 Archived-At: --===============2264341119079842198== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=-=-=" --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >>> "Adam" == Adam Sjøgren writes: > Uwe writes: >> This list of people with whom I communicate in S/MIME contains 8 >> individuals, for opengpg there is just 1. > The list of people I have communicated using PGP contains 3 individuals, > for S/MIME the number is 0. I presume these persons have some software knowledge. Did you try once to convince computer how shall I say illiterate to use encryption? Here is short table to show why it is much *easier* to use S/MIME for such people. | operations | S/MIME | PGP | |----------------------------+----------------------------+-----------------| | Inst of software | no; included | yes | | Installation of plugin | no; included | yes | | generation of keypair | no; ask for a certificate | yes | | interchange of public keys | simply send a sign message | yes interchange | --=-=-= Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="==-=-=" --==-=-= Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

>>> "Adam" == Adam Sjøgren <asjo@koldfront.dk> writes:

> Uwe writes:
>> This list of people with whom I communicate in S/MIME contains 8
>> individuals, for opengpg there is just 1.

> The list of people I have communicated using PGP contains 3 individuals,
> for S/MIME the number is 0.

I presume these persons have some software knowledge.

Did you try once to convince computer how shall I say illiterate to use
encryption?

Here is short table to show why it is much easier to use S/MIME for
such people.

operations S/MIME PGP
Inst of software no; included yes
Installation of plugin no; included yes
generation of keypair no; ask for a certificate yes
interchange of public keys simply send a sign message yes interchange
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