From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16206 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Howe Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: threading broken in g.e.gnus Date: Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:36:13 -0400 Organization: quadium.net Message-ID: <87wqsj4lmq.fsf@rash.fl.quadium.net> References: <87a9pf7hcc.fsf@rash.fl.quadium.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365007207 6818 80.91.229.3 (3 Apr 2013 16:40:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2013 16:40:07 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 03 18:40:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQjf-0004Ib-PD for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 18:40:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56832 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UNQjH-0007IN-2Z for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Apr 2013 12:40:07 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!feeder.erje.net!us.feeder.erje.net!newsfeed.fsmpi.rwth-aachen.de!border2.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams2.giganews.com!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news.astraweb.com!border5.a.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.1008 (Gnus v5.10.8) XEmacs/21.5-b31 (linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:emiy0xD7XwgiJWpT7D12UolV9eE= Original-Lines: 30 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 9f96d95b.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=EBZS]o9PnmkF1iA^=`ZUjbL?0kYOcDh@j72F7U6B]WgdK[4gR8\; l List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16206 Archived-At: On 03 Apr 2013, wgreenhouse@riseup.net (W. Greenhouse) wrote: > Tim Howe writes: > >> I'm noticing many of the threads in here are completely broken. It >> seems the Message-IDs are getting replaced by Mailman ones so References >> and In-Reply-To headers are left dangling. > > You can try customizing `gnus-summary-thread-gathering-function'. > Gnus's default is indeed to fall back on Subject if References are > wrong Thanks for that, but I was actually commenting on the munging itself, not how Gnus is handling it on display. It seems something (GMANE?) is chewing on the articles and replacing the Message-IDs with "Mailman" ones, meaning that references and threading are broken non-predictably depending on the path messages take. -- Tim Howe http://quadium.net/~vsync/ The lack of interest, the disdain for history is what makes computing not-quite-a-field. [...] They have no idea where [their culture came from] and the Internet was done so well that most people think of it as a natural resource like the Pacific Ocean, rather than something that was man-made. When was the last time a technology with a scale like that was so error-free? The Web, in comparison, is a joke. The Web was done by amateurs. -- Alan Kay