From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/15853 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Gardella Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: A Gnus Biff Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:06:36 -0400 Message-ID: <87wqzdzr0j.fsf@gmail.com> References: <871uhl24iu.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1348873620 23586 80.91.229.3 (28 Sep 2012 23:07:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:07:00 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Sat Sep 29 01:07:06 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1THje8-0008JL-Kg for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:07:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47691 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THje3-0007Cb-5j for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:06:55 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THje0-0007CL-NW for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:06:53 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THjdz-00036L-OV for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:06:52 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52525) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1THjdz-00036H-IC for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Fri, 28 Sep 2012 19:06:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1THjdy-0008EI-Lu for info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:06:50 +0200 Original-Received: from c-24-131-17-1.hsd1.pa.comcast.net ([24.131.17.1]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:06:50 +0200 Original-Received: from gardellawg by c-24-131-17-1.hsd1.pa.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 29 Sep 2012 01:06:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet-dbVV3NMTNubNLxjTenLetw@public.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-131-17-1.hsd1.pa.comcast.net X-Archive: encrypt User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:FX7VLgrjQnWBx4tddVXGrVNb5ik= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org-mXXj517/zsQ@public.gmane.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:15853 Archived-At: William Gardella writes: > ... > > Is there a function or variable I could use as a condition to determine > whether Gnus is actually "running?" Eval-after-load is probably not > quite right, because Gnus is not exactly a normal Elisp package, and > it's not that I need some function to be available--it's that the group > data hasn't been populated yet until Gnus is running. I also considered > using the variable `gnus-demon-timers' as a condition, since the daemon > timers are started when gnus starts/restarts and removed when it exits, > and someone who wants a biff probably does use gnus-demon for periodic > message checking. Is that a kludge? Is there a better way to check the > status of Gnus? > > Thanks in advance for your thoughts, > WGG Hmm. Perhaps `gnus-startup-hook' or `gnus-started-hook' is a possibility. I'm not entirely clear as to the difference between them. I notice also that there's a `gnus-after-getting-new-news-hook' which might offer another way of running my function, rather than wastefully running it whenever display-time updates itself...pleasantly, Gnus has more of an API than it appeared when I started :)