From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/14498 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Yuri D'Elia Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Reply to self behavior Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:32:31 +0100 Message-ID: <87wrmna6cw.fsf@savara.sat.thregr.org> References: <871v59adu4.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> <87r5d9ocyg.fsf@savara.sat.thregr.org> <87mxnxo8fs.fsf@savara.sat.thregr.org> <87ei998nip.fsf@topper.koldfront.dk> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1293967977 13061 80.91.229.12 (2 Jan 2011 11:32:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 11:32:57 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 02 12:32:53 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZMB9-0005T8-7b for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:32:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46049 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZMB8-0001dX-Og for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:32:50 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=40762 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PZMB5-0001bi-Te for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:32:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZMB4-0008Bd-8o for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:32:47 -0500 Original-Received: from lo.gmane.org ([80.91.229.12]:48062) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PZMB4-0008BM-20 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 06:32:46 -0500 Original-Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PZMB2-0005Q5-3l for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:32:44 +0100 Original-Received: from 88-149-142-246.dynamic.ngi.it ([88.149.142.246]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:32:44 +0100 Original-Received: from wavexx by 88-149-142-246.dynamic.ngi.it with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 02 Jan 2011 12:32:44 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 23 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 88-149-142-246.dynamic.ngi.it User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.2 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:QaLIU9rYFyqGHAIXsJCrYI+/Rq0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:14498 Archived-At: On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 08:40:33 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Yuri D'Elia writes: > >>>> (_real_ format=flowed support anyone? it's supported since 199? in >>>> outlook) >>> >>> What doesn't work? And what is format=flowed? Why would you want it? >> >> format=flowed encodes hard-newlines in the message, while still wrapping >> the source of the message to 80 columns. This allow compliant readers to >> either show the wrapped text or flow the content to the window's >> margins. > > In what way doesn't format=flowed work in Gnus? I think that was > implemented at least a decade ago, but it may have bitrotted in the mean > time... After reading the sources, I was able to achieve flowed zenity with the following: (setq fill-flowed-display-column nil) (add-hook 'message-mode-hook (lambda () (turn-off-auto-fill) (setq truncate-lines nil) (use-hard-newlines))) (add-hook 'gnus-article-mode-hook (lambda () (setq truncate-lines nil))) My only complaint is that `use-hard-newlines' shouldn't be necessary. Any line longer than `fill-flowed-encode-column' should trigger a format=flowed message automatically instead of generating a warning.