From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16899 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: adive to a gnus newbie Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:43:01 +0200 Organization: Aioe.org NNTP Server Message-ID: <87y4wthb62.fsf@debian.uxu> References: <87fvmvvjju.fsf@jenenliu-Inspiron-N4050.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <824n3adv7p.fsf@web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1403145921 29352 80.91.229.3 (19 Jun 2014 02:45:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 02:45:21 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 19 04:45:16 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WxSLj-0005Vt-MQ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 19 Jun 2014 04:45:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33371 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WxSLj-000459-BT for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 22:45:15 -0400 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!goblin3!goblin2!goblin.stu.neva.ru!aioe.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 48 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: SIvZRMPqRkkTHAHL6NkRuw.user.speranza.aioe.org Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@aioe.org User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) X-Notice: Filtered by postfilter v. 0.8.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:dyvg/nVdIl8MOuYcRog7/8Ci+LA= Mail-Copies-To: never Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:88028 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16899 Archived-At: Dennis Askey writes: >> The gnus document is complicated to me, maybe it is >> because I am new to gnus. Now I have the basic >> setting myself, and read some tutorials. I am >> trying to read and understand gnus documents. It >> can be painful if you don't know what others talk >> about gnus for beginners. Thanks for reply. > > I had trouble understanding gnus for the longest time > until I simply sat down and read the help group that > gnus automatically shows when you first start it and > then read section 6.3 Getting Mail in the gnus > manual. I used those sources to create a barebones > ~/.gnus.el. Yes, Gnus isn't that easy, I thought it was much more difficult to get into than Emacs in general, which was straightforward by comparison to my mind... I hope I don't make anyone angry by saying this, but I don't care much for reading tutorials. Or, put it this way - tutorials (and books) come in at a later stage, when you already have a functional understanding. This will make for many unpleasant revelations when you find out that your elaborate hacking can be replaced by setting a single option (blushes)... But as said, that is step to. Step one is: get the door open, by forcing your leg between the door and the panel. When it is open just a bit, you may turn and twist your leg to a more comfortable position, and start refining you methods. So: 1) Use it. For mails and for Usenet posts. Never use anything else. No exceptions. 2) Learn one thing every day. May be a variable, a shortcut, a term - whatever as tiny. In 365 days, you will have acquire 365 such pieces of knowledge (except for the leap years, when you are even more productive). 3) When you have learned on one such thing, relax, be happy, and keep using it. -- underground experts united: http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573