From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.1 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_INVALID,DKIM_SIGNED, FREEMAIL_FROM,MAILING_LIST_MULTI,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 28990 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2021 09:52:48 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 2 Sep 2021 09:52:48 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1]:53490 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLjOn-0006TR-Li for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 05:52:45 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLjMp-0003mq-5U for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 05:50:43 -0400 Received: from forward103o.mail.yandex.net ([2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::606]:59832) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mLjMc-00084L-2U for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 05:50:42 -0400 Received: from myt6-08ca0b879dee.qloud-c.yandex.net (myt6-08ca0b879dee.qloud-c.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:c12:12a2:0:640:8ca:b87]) by forward103o.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 72AEF10AB7F4; Thu, 2 Sep 2021 12:50:24 +0300 (MSK) Received: from myt3-5a0d70690205.qloud-c.yandex.net (myt3-5a0d70690205.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c12:4f2b:0:640:5a0d:7069]) by myt6-08ca0b879dee.qloud-c.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id kSjv5y3nPE-oOHmAaVE; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 12:50:24 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1630576224; bh=yqSoDtPrzuOvT/+EXmxXFPpzTE/79Z7Qi3nQdlyI7Xk=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:References:To:From:Message-ID:Cc:Cc; b=wM5XCP+lMOhDCfgU33o8TsoPrq2G+Rgiezf+5l2UfYGWrfjHrtBHvlKp7IA8anBpZ WS5kJj2oGVfgR7lHUH7PD+8GqNSEkgYzC0A3FqbC00Pu4eLRAQgGdmKxBBkk1ucvBZ 1I7zCgpEUcy6XqZzhG/Fttwtlz0lleXarvoPMlCg= Authentication-Results: myt6-08ca0b879dee.qloud-c.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Received: by myt3-5a0d70690205.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id swP58iFBxt-oNoGlUiT; Thu, 02 Sep 2021 12:50:23 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) From: Colin Baxter To: Alberto Luaces Subject: Re: Subject of PGP-encrypted emails References: <877dh2jtdo.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> <875ywlhego.fsf@gnus.org> <8735qnto53.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <878s0fs77l.fsf@yandex.com> <87y28fs6f5.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> <874kb3s5nq.fsf@yandex.com> <87tuj3s5cv.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> X-Face: BHjiJOg/Qmj'BQgsAKL@])L)e62P)C"Y=6T X-Message-My-Extra-Message: 8-) We are the only ones here =?utf-8?B?8J+YuiDwn5i6IPCfmLo=?= Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2021 10:50:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <87tuj3s5cv.fsf@eps142.cdf.udc.es> (Alberto Luaces's message of "Thu, 02 Sep 2021 11:18:24 +0200") Message-ID: <87zgsvqpb6.fsf@yandex.com> User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAAEkAAAATAgMAAAChCMjeAAAABGdBTUEAALGPC/xhBQAAACBj SFJNAAB6JgAAgIQAAPoAAACA6AAAdTAAAOpgAAA6mAAAF3CculE8AAAACVBMVEX/zAABCWP///8I RHjYAAAAAWJLR0QCZgt8ZAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB+UFEAk5BvqS634A AAAbSURBVBjTY2BgCA1hYA0FAxDDgQEERsXoIAYA2F9Eb3cpB+AAAAAldEVYdGRhdGU6Y3JlYXRl ADIwMjEtMDUtMTZUMTA6NTY6MTcrMDE6MDCh/kkpAAAAJXRFWHRkYXRlOm1vZGlmeQAyMDIxLTA1 LTE2VDA5OjU3OjA2KzAxOjAwTyZ6HwAAAABJRU5ErkJggg== MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::606; envelope-from=m43cap@yandex.com; helo=forward103o.mail.yandex.net X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: , info-gnus-english@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" >>>>> Alberto Luaces writes: > Colin Baxter writes: >> Hello Alberto, >>>>>>> Alberto Luaces writes: >>=20 >> > Colin Baxter writes: >> Doesn't autocrypt >> use the Web Key Directory (WKD) for PGP keys? >> This seems a >> pain to set up . >>=20 >> > AFAIK it doesn't, since everything is encoded into the >> message's > headers. I have been using it without any WKD setup. >>=20 >> > Nevertheless, that fact doesn't rule out that it can be used, >> but > I never heard about it. >>=20 >> Ok, my mistake. My question is getting to be a little off-topic, >> but if WKD is not used then how is the key for a new recipient >> automatically located? > No problem. It is a discovery protocol, so it grows stronger =E2=80= =94so > to say=E2=80=94 as far as the communication evolves. You start sendi= ng a > message in the clear, but offer your key in the headers, so it is > automatically collected and used by your interlocutor in the > following messages. Of course you have also to have an > out-of-band mean of verifying the identity of the other party. > Maybe I lost some details or explained it incorrectly, so here you > will find the idea: https://autocrypt.org/examples.html I like the idea of sending the key in a header, with subsequent automatic exchanges. That is very nice. :-) Best wishes, Colin.