From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/18849 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: on automatic gnus-summary-insert-new-articles after posting Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2018 23:52:55 -0700 Message-ID: <87zhya5y9k.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <86d0v7jrvd.fsf@dev.null> <8636w2hp1b.fsf@dev.null> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1532847071 8531 195.159.176.226 (29 Jul 2018 06:51:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2018 06:51:11 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.0.50 (gnu/linux) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 29 08:51:07 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fjfXm-00026w-1n for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 08:51:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:47362 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjfZs-0000UD-PH for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:53:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45380) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjfZn-0000U8-Pa for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:53:12 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjfZk-0003Y3-Oc for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:53:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [195.159.176.226] (port=45012 helo=blaine.gmane.org) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fjfZk-0003Vs-Gi for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 02:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fjfXb-0001uW-Fo for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sun, 29 Jul 2018 08:50:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:E1rpHkt5XvnY+YbAQWXqLwSoI4M= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.159.176.226 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "info-gnus-english" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:18849 Archived-At: Robert Girault writes: [...] > This brings me to a point I've been trying to set up Gnus for. I'd like > to keep, for a while, a history of everything I wrote. Saving messages > locally isn't good enough because the context is gone. The context is > the thread. > > When I enter a group, I feel lost. I think it's slrn that I've used in > the past. When I'd enter a news group, I'd have a clear idea of what's > happening---which threads are growing and which are not. I looked up slrn, and interestingly the author seemed to have written it because he found Gnus too slow! I don't know how slrn does it, so I don't know exactly what effect you're after. Are you using threading? I've got `gnus-show-threads' set to t and `gnus-fetch-old-headers' set to 'some, and that shows me just as much context as I want. > Also, my way of working is to write articles, but only post them after > I've reviewed them. I haven't yet acquired skills enough to do that > with Gnus. > > I know it's possible to save them as drafts and send them later, but I'd > like to distinguish between partially written messages from messages > queued for delivery. You can use the agent for this. When you're finished with a message, hit "C-c C-j" (gnus-delay-article), and you can choose a future date at which the message will send. It won't actually send at that date unless you run the `gnus-delay-send-queue' command in the *Group* buffer. That might do what you want, though I don't know how easy it is to edit messages once you've added them to the queue. > I've read An Introduction to Emacs Lisp and I really liked it. I wish > there was a book on Gnus. I'm very grateful for the Gnus manual, but I > confess that, whenever I stop to read it, I try to make the things it > advertises happen, but I fail to do so a good number of the times. So > I'm always thinking that I need some sort of education that I don't have > in order to read the manual properly. Has anyone ever written a book on > Gnus? Pretty sure not! Eric