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From: Hikaru Ichijyo <ichijyo@macross.sdf.jp>
To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org
Subject: Re: alt-tab? really? you're joking...
Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 08:38:48 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8xx1tmlh893.fsf@village.keycorner.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lhkut5zv.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com>

"Pascal J. Bourguignon" <pjb@informatimago.com> writes:

> You seem to be very confused.  

Probably...

> The key binding for name completion is Meta Tab, M-TAB, 
> not Alt Tab A-TAB.
>
> Perhaps your keyboard is ill-configured too.
>
> You should ask advice on how to map a meta- modifier key disctinct from
> the alt- modifier key (if you needed the later at all)

I do know about the history of Emacs and Lisp...and space cadet
keyboards, and the Meta, Super, Hyper keys...

But really...  On a modern x86 Intel-based PC (which is what probably
over 90% of users running Emacs today are using), "Meta" is your Alt
key.  We can all swear an oath to always call it Meta out of deference
to Richard Stallman and very expensive rackmount machines in the 70's
that were purpose-built to run Lisp, but...oh come on, it's your Alt
key, right?

The real gist of my question was that one's window manager (kwin,
WindowMaker, etc.) will almost certainly just think of Alt as Alt, and
won't care for what historical reason Emacs wants Alt-Tab (um, Meta-Tab).

-- 
He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from
oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent
that will reach to himself.
					--Thomas Paine

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-23 14:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-23  3:50 Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-23  4:17 ` Charles Philip Chan
2015-01-23  5:34 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-01-23 14:38   ` Hikaru Ichijyo [this message]
2015-01-23 14:50     ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2015-01-23 22:20     ` Charles Philip Chan
2015-01-23 10:26 ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found] ` <mailman.18427.1422008816.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-23 14:47   ` Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-26  8:12     ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]     ` <mailman.18637.1422259999.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-26 21:18       ` incal
2015-01-26 21:34         ` incal
2015-01-27  9:51           ` Tassilo Horn
     [not found]           ` <mailman.18727.1422352295.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-27 20:24             ` more keys in a Linux VT (was: alt-tab? really? you're joking...) Emanuel Berg
2015-01-24  0:12 ` alt-tab? really? you're joking incal
2015-01-24  4:40   ` Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-24 10:34     ` incal
2015-01-24 12:00     ` Adam Sjøgren
     [not found]     ` <mailman.18502.1422100844.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-24 23:40       ` Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-25  2:07         ` Winston
2015-01-25  2:55           ` Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-25  8:38             ` Glyn Millington
2015-01-25  8:40             ` Glyn Millington
2015-01-25  8:59         ` Immediate expiration Damien Wyart
2015-01-25 20:32           ` Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-25 12:41         ` alt-tab? really? you're joking incal
2015-01-25 13:00           ` new subject (was: alt-tab? really? you're joking...) Peter Münster
     [not found]           ` <mailman.18547.1422190826.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-25 13:37             ` incal
2015-01-25 13:42               ` incal
2015-01-25 19:58               ` new subject Peter Münster
2015-01-25 20:36                 ` Clemens Schüller
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.18582.1422218214.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-25 20:53                   ` Emanuel Berg
2015-01-26  8:04                     ` Peter Münster
     [not found]                     ` <mailman.18636.1422259506.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-26 19:35                       ` Emanuel Berg
     [not found]               ` <mailman.18578.1422215928.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-25 20:51                 ` Emanuel Berg
2015-01-25 22:19         ` alt-tab? really? you're joking Adam Sjøgren
2015-01-26  8:15           ` Tassilo Horn
2015-01-26 10:12             ` Adam Sjøgren
     [not found]             ` <mailman.18642.1422267150.1147.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2015-01-26 19:48               ` Emanuel Berg
2015-01-27  0:15               ` Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-27  1:21                 ` spam (was: alt-tab? really? you're joking...) incal
2015-01-27  2:51                   ` spam Hikaru Ichijyo
2015-01-27  3:11                     ` spam incal
2015-01-25 12:32       ` alt-tab? really? you're joking incal

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