From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/17350 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hikaru Ichijyo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: alt-tab? really? you're joking... Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2015 21:50:18 -0600 Organization: UN Spacy Message-ID: <8xxfvb2tath.fsf@village.keycorner.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1421985308 21421 80.91.229.3 (23 Jan 2015 03:55:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Jan 2015 03:55:08 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 23 04:55:08 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YEVKu-0004ig-0q for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Jan 2015 04:55:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56983 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YEVKt-0005RN-98 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 22 Jan 2015 22:55:07 -0500 Original-Path: usenet.stanford.edu!news.kjsl.com!news.alt.net!news.astraweb.com!border5.newsrouter.astraweb.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:30OxsHjV3I1Dadal91elXV9wlGc= Original-Lines: 30 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: bcbdad8b.news.astraweb.com Original-X-Trace: DXC=_oE3QlWc:BnNIa8EGN3lWcL?0kYOcDh@j`:9U0LHX=]a7hYWEOcT^fg58Z8MMN8fYmo=EIjJ5b; Wc3K:9^o4aV8aC3^ZD3SSZ_`PE^Z]IPlfao Original-Xref: usenet.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:88479 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:17350 Archived-At: I've pretty much settled into Gnus now, to the point where everything else feels silly, so I thought I'd start adding BBDB integration. It seems that the key binding for name completion is M-TAB. That's just...amazing. Really. The fact that Emacs and BBDB come from a UNIX-centric world doesn't begin to explain that, since MS-Windows is not the only platform where that's used for windows switching. It's also true in WindowMaker (which I use), KDE, Gnome, and if I remember correctly, CDE (which kills any idea that maybe they were only thinking of commercial UNIX). And the Info docs say that you can't rebind it. I did find an example online of how you might rebind the key for Wanderlust, but the example seemed fairly specific to Wanderlust. What's the typical way Gnus users get around this these days? Also, I should note that I'm running BBDB 2.35 and not the new 3.x rewrite, since the web site warns loudly that it's alpha alpha alpha! (Should I be running 3.x anyway?) Really...even in the 1990's, in the days of HPUX/CDE workstations and Motif X11 toolkits...Alt-Tab? Really? When was that ever a good idea for an application key binding? -- He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty, he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. --Thomas Paine