* top & bottom posting @ 2002-12-16 8:19 Sivaram Neelakantan 2002-12-16 10:07 ` Kai Großjohann 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2002-12-16 8:19 UTC (permalink / raw) Hello, How do I top post when I do replies? Please dont flame for this, for most people where I work, they completely ignore the bottom posting style thus messing up the mail thread. When I hit R , the signature appears appears at the bottom & the cursor is at the line below "Some person" <someperson@doofusemail.com> writes: I'd like it to be that the cursor is at the first line in the body with the signature below it. Of course, if it can be made to choose the style based on the addresses I'm replying to i.e specific emails,mailing lists that would be a treat! It's not working, trying to get some of co workers understand why I bottom post hence this post. I've pointed to all the netiquette urls and still the mixed style replies! from-forced-against-my-will dept Sivaram ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: top & bottom posting 2002-12-16 8:19 top & bottom posting Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2002-12-16 10:07 ` Kai Großjohann [not found] ` <87n0n52yb1.fsf@kuntu.zangpo.org> [not found] ` <a7043d61.0212162056.fa92f39@posting.google.com> 0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Kai Großjohann @ 2002-12-16 10:07 UTC (permalink / raw) sivaramn@sunguru.com (Sivaram Neelakantan) writes: > How do I top post when I do replies? Is it enough to hit C-c C-b C-o? -- ~/.signature is: umop ap!sdn (Frank Nobis) ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: top & bottom posting [not found] ` <m3y96o3d7v.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> @ 2002-12-17 15:17 ` Andrew J. Korty 2002-12-18 3:20 ` Galen Boyer 2002-12-17 20:57 ` Dave Bennett 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Andrew J. Korty @ 2002-12-17 15:17 UTC (permalink / raw) ruhl@4dv.net (Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>) writes: > This whole discussion has ignored one very important thing: top-posting > is to be _very_ strongly discouraged. It is _poor_ style, hard to read, > difficult to understand and leads to over-long posts--and thus, wastes > of bandwidth. It has no good points. So if gnus makes it difficult, > this is actually a Good Thing, believe it or not. Does Gnus have any predefined capacity to invert top-posted threads? I *hate* trying to read backwards through a long discussion from a group of Outlook users. I've tried gnus-outlook-deuglify-article, but it doesn't usually do much. -- Andrew J. Korty, Principal Security Engineer Office of the Vice President for Information Technology Indiana University ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: top & bottom posting 2002-12-17 15:17 ` Andrew J. Korty @ 2002-12-18 3:20 ` Galen Boyer 2002-12-18 16:13 ` Dave Bennett 0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Galen Boyer @ 2002-12-18 3:20 UTC (permalink / raw) On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, me@privacy.net wrote: > ruhl@4dv.net (Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net>) writes: > >> This whole discussion has ignored one very important thing: >> top-posting is to be _very_ strongly discouraged. It is _poor_ >> style, hard to read, difficult to understand and leads to over-long >> posts--and thus, wastes of bandwidth. It has no good points. So if >> gnus makes it difficult, this is actually a Good Thing, believe it or >> not. > > Does Gnus have any predefined capacity to invert top-posted threads? > I *hate* trying to read backwards through a long discussion from a > group of Outlook users. I've tried gnus-outlook-deuglify-article, but > it doesn't usually do much. I started using this a few weeks ago. (setq gnus-treat-hide-citation t) Collapses all cited text to a [+]. You need to then have `W W c` handy to uncollapse. You could make gnus notice you are in a group with mainly outlook users and this would come in "real" handy. -- Galen deForest Boyer Sweet dreams and flying machines in pieces on the ground. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: top & bottom posting 2002-12-18 3:20 ` Galen Boyer @ 2002-12-18 16:13 ` Dave Bennett 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Dave Bennett @ 2002-12-18 16:13 UTC (permalink / raw) I'm going to try that. It'll definitely make searching through interleaved posted messages much easier. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: top & bottom posting [not found] ` <m3y96o3d7v.fsf@latakia.dyndns.org> 2002-12-17 15:17 ` Andrew J. Korty @ 2002-12-17 20:57 ` Dave Bennett 2002-12-18 18:14 ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net> 1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread From: Dave Bennett @ 2002-12-17 20:57 UTC (permalink / raw) Maybe you enjoy playing with the mouse or changing windows to press page down, but I do not. Top posting allows me to immediately see responses to the discussion at hand. I never read bottom posted responses at all. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
* Re: top & bottom posting 2002-12-17 20:57 ` Dave Bennett @ 2002-12-18 18:14 ` Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net> 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net> @ 2002-12-18 18:14 UTC (permalink / raw) Dave Bennett <dbennett@micoks.net> writes: > > Maybe you enjoy playing with the mouse or changing windows to press > page down, but I do not. I do not either--which is why I trim my quotes to the bare amount necessary. > Top posting allows me to immediately see responses to the discussion > at hand. Without context. E.g., had it not been for the fact that I know what you're responding to, your comment would make no sense--it would appear to be apropos to nothing. But, but quoting a relevant item of text, my replies are understood in the context they were made. > I never read bottom posted responses at all. That's a pity, as that means you must not read 11/12ths of the responses out there. -- Robert Uhl <ruhl@4dv.net> I'm talking RFCs where you're talking Microsoft. --Alan J. Rosenthal ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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* Re: top & bottom posting [not found] ` <84y96png7m.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> @ 2002-12-18 13:01 ` Sivaram Neelakantan 0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread From: Sivaram Neelakantan @ 2002-12-18 13:01 UTC (permalink / raw) kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) wrote in message news:<84y96png7m.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>... <snip> > If that's what you like, I'm sure that a more convenient way can be > found instead of C-c C-b ... C-o. Dare i ask how? :) BTW, it still leaves a line -- at the end of the buffer, going by what you say. Since I do have a .signature, it appears at the bottom. That's why I was wondering whether a 'R' hook which inserts user defined data(in this case a newline & a -- ) before the original message body is available. regards, Sivaram ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 8+ messages in thread
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