From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16190 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: Sent message still in drafts (lisp error: "Selecting deleted buffer") Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2013 10:40:59 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: <877gkn8ma1.fsf@bitburger.home.felix> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364866881 12223 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2013 01:41:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 01:41:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org To: Felix Natter Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 02 03:41:48 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMqEI-0003RK-1r for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 03:41:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37285 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMqDs-00075a-Tl for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58940) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMqDp-00074T-8T for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:41:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMqDn-0007Gj-GH for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:41:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([216.246.13.138]:53151 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMqDn-0007Gf-Bf for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 21:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]:53895 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UMqDk-0046xV-5b; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:41:08 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:o1el45qOPGTDcV+CG1HdJes17Uw= Posted-To: gnu.emacs.gnus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: root X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (barebone) [generic] X-Received-From: 216.246.13.138 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16190 Archived-At: Felix Natter wrote: > Will Ma Gnus also work with GNU Emacs 23? It should work. I tried to build Emacs 23.4 but failed (this seems to need some tweaks to build on Cygwin). But don't worry, in the past I had a chance to use the Emacs 23.4 binary that Cygwin distributed and the one I built on Linux in home, and had no problem with Ma Ggnus. AFAICT, the significant difference between the old Gnus and today's one is that the marks feature for the nnml backend, etc. has been removed. But it won't trouble you unless you run two or more Gnus on the same account of the same machine. [...] >> You can simply abandon Ma Gnus by: >> ・ rm -r site-lisp/gnus >> ・ remove the (require 'gnus-load) line in the ~/.emacs file. > But Ma Gnus won't change the configuration so that the "stable" Gnus > that comes with Emacs(23) does not run any more? In other words, can I > always go back? I believe you can go back with no major problem. If anything, I don't think you get a reason to go back. Even if it causes a trouble, you will be able to get more followups in the net since the interest of developers and expert users is in the bleeding edge, not the old ones. What you have to do then is to download and rebuild the improved Gnus, or to improve it by yourself.