From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16168 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user,gmane.emacs.gnus.general Subject: Expiring sent drafts does now always `delete' Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 10:36:29 +0900 Organization: Emacsen advocacy group Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364434613 32268 80.91.229.3 (28 Mar 2013 01:36:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 01:36:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org, Felix Natter To: ding@gnus.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 28 02:37:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UL1mD-0008V7-Ei for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 28 Mar 2013 02:37:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59459 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL1lp-0003Le-EN for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:36:49 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:37699) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL1ln-0003LY-AH for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:36:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL1lm-0007cz-4o for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:36:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-hampton.hostforweb.net ([216.246.13.138]:33119 helo=hampton.hostforweb.net) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UL1lm-0007cb-0Q for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 21:36:46 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ([127.0.0.1]:38732 helo=localhost) by hampton.hostforweb.net with smtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1UL1lf-001Jts-BP; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 20:36:40 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus X-Face: #kKnN,xUnmKia.'[pp`; Omh}odZK)?7wQSl"4o04=EixTF+V[""w~iNbM9ZL+.b*_CxUmFk B#Fu[*?MZZH@IkN:!"\w%I_zt>[$nm7nQosZ<3eu; B:$Q_:p!',P.c0-_Cy[dz4oIpw0ESA^D*1Lw= L&i*6&( User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (=?iso-2022-jp?B?GyRCPz8bKEI=?= Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.3.50 (i686-pc-cygwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:8M7HAjnlQQTd7mW/4Js6+jXckDE= Posted-To: gnu.emacs.gnus X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - hampton.hostforweb.net X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - gnu.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - jpl.org X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: hampton.hostforweb.net: acl_c_authenticated_local_user: yamaoka X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x (barebone) [generic] X-Received-From: 216.246.13.138 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:16168 gmane.emacs.gnus.general:83030 Archived-At: Hi, This might be a regression but I think it would trouble no one. I made draft messages come to be deleted after being sent regardless of the value of `nnmail-expiry-target'. If it is `delete', that is the default, the behavior is unchanged. Before this change, a sent draft was moved to an expiry group if `nnmail-expiry-target' specifies it. However, there were some problems with moved drafts: 1. A separator is left between the header and the body. It causes the body of a moved draft to be unable to read. Even if one sets or binds `mail-header-separator' to "", 2. A message is in MML, not MIME. I.e., non-ASCII text is as is, attachments are mere tags. 3. There seems to be an unresolved bug. See also: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16110 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16114 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16160 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16163 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16164 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16165 http://article.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/16166 (The thread is broken because info-gnus-english@gnu.org rewites Message-IDs. :<) There are similar problems with draft messages that are copied or moved to normal groups by `B c' or `B m'. But IMHO, it's not worth improving, since you can use Gcc or something if you want to archive sent messages. Regards,