From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/14029 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Katsumi Yamaoka Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: mail list alive? gatewayed? 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X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:14029 Archived-At: Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus (posted to news.eternal-september.org) Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Allan Gottlieb wrote: > I sent a msg to this mailing list (info-gnus-english@gnu.org) on the > 12th. > Reiner Steib replied to the newsgroup gnu.emacs.gnus with a CC to me. > I received the CC but not the msg posted to the newsgroup. > I had thought that the newsgroup and mailing list had bidirectional > forwarding. Is this belief correct and, if so, any idea why reiner's > msg to the newsgroup has not appeared on the mailing list? > I also checked > http://www.mail-archive.com/info-gnus-english@gnu.org/maillist.html > and the latest msgs are from the 12th. I don't know why but there seem to be at least two kinds of news servers as for the gnu.emacs.gnus newsgroup; [1]one allows nntp posting but doesn't forward articles to the list, [2]the other doesn't allow nntp posting but forwards articles posted to the list to the newsgroup. Some of [2] may moderate nntp-posted articles, i.e. forward articles to the list. For example: [1] news.eternal-september.org [2] news.individual.net Both are open to people for free but both don't forward nntp- posted articles to the list. :-< I guess this problem is due to some newsservers that took it for granted that the group is moderated. As for [2] the nntp command `list newsgroups' returns: gnu.emacs.gnus News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS (in English). (Moderated) (There's no entry for gnu.emacs.gnus in [1].) Whereas isc.org says in ftp://ftp.isc.org/pub/usenet/CONFIG/newsgroups.gz as: gnu.emacs.gnus News reading under GNU Emacs using GNUS (in English). A possible workaround may be the one like this article. ;-)