From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/11757 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus and pine Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:25:56 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <85tz8z7kwq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229946045 13430 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2008 11:40:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:40:45 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 12:41:52 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LEjAT-0003NK-Qc for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:41:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40831 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEj9H-0000wX-8Q for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 06:40:35 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!rileyrgdev.motzarella.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 47 Original-X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX1+J6W4hIJNfsgqTsZw8rdyI+6nuQA2+RCi55htr6m60CSmuvVCtBcCeR+qi0QSv1RWyp7GIcfPlk6g1fMrsCtcZqYojte8Kr1qWjZmkgmp6kJZr3SpcAnGEnqmFtGIP9aZL+fX/8r9r7g== Original-X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:27:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX18yyqwBVeYFcg+DvppkMHwAlF+wwFbWLoC0FEQQnnswrA== Cancel-Lock: sha1:WhN1+PNIv9NtQ8ughMekoc+89gQ= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:82016 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:11757 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > harven writes: > >> David Kastrup writes: >> >>> Xavier Maillard writes: >>> >>>> harven writes: >>>> >>>>> Then I guess the answer is « I decided to use $foo instead of $bar + $foo >>>>> because $foo can do whatever $bar can do, after some customization » >>>> >>>> :) >>>> >>>> Whatever the reason was, it is a good reason. >>>> >>>> I am a bit surprised about the "4 millions users" for the pine >>>> MUA. What is your source ? >>> >>> Arithmetic overflow? >> >> Arithmetic underflow. >> The pine website reports 29 millions users, as of august 2006. >> When first starting pine, a new user is prompted whether he wants >> to send a message to the pine website. That's how the data are gathered. >> See for details http://staff.washington.edu/corey/pine-stats/ > > This is really astonishing. I do not pretend that these numbers > are wrong or something like that but except Linus, I never met > somebody using Pine (well you are the second in fact). Ditto. My Gnus displays the mail/news client used to post and unless people are disguising their client, it's very rare I see Pine in use. The numbers must be wrong.... > >> I would be interested to know if there are statistics about the gnus userbase. > > Gnus is popular but I am pretty comfident there are not that much > users. A few tens of thousands? And possibly diminishing as emacs loses share with the plethora of alternatives available unfortunately.