From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/11762 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus and pine Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:27:06 +0100 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: References: <85tz8z7kwq.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229964035 6553 80.91.229.12 (22 Dec 2008 16:40:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:40:35 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 22 17:41:42 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LEnqf-0003EE-Ch for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:41:41 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53169 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LEnpS-0008Tz-Tz for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:40:26 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!news.glorb.com!news2!feeder1.news.weretis.net!newsfeeder.dynfx.net!weretis.net!news.motzarella.org!motzarella.org!rileyrgdev.motzarella.org!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-Lines: 25 Original-X-Trace: news.eternal-september.org U2FsdGVkX1+salfExyUc6sjM86ydeChIyd2T7l8qrq56hkzd7CN6EhkT88/RofvdVM409t2FTVXKFaTQDBNN+1DDFks4XpFm5+ZIiUDlcSLDdmcaKtolI1xGg2wtsDjws4dbr1CejnNUdsIO1eIpLA== Original-X-Complaints-To: Please send complaints to abuse@motzarella.org with full headers Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:28:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Auth-Sender: U2FsdGVkX1+2ge4GfR3DWi0nF6PBGypH4rFHT5lARkDxncWyb+iC4g== Cancel-Lock: sha1:Xymcz9fQ5ijHBOCx9azTcBmVahA= User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:82021 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:11762 Archived-At: harven writes: > Richard Riley writes: > >> >> My Gnus displays the mail/news client used to post and unless people are >> disguising their client, it's very rare I see Pine in use. >> >> The numbers must be wrong.... > > Pine is a mail client, not a newsreader. It has some capability > as a newsreader, as a side effect, but that's not its primary goal. In I know - but like Gnus it CAN read both. My display of client is for both mail and news. > fact, there are probably few Pine users that know they can read > news with Pine. The fact is not even mentioned on the alpine webpage > http://www.washington.edu/alpine/ Which reduces even further the chance of that many millions of users.... -- important and urgent problems of the technology of today are no longer the satisfactions of the primary needs or of archetypal wishes, but the reparation of the evils and damages by the technology of yesterday. ~Dennis Gabor, Innovations: Scientific, Technological and Social, 1970