From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/1759 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Robin S. Socha" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Guide to Problematical Don Saklad Use (was: Draft 1 for a new Gnus FAQ) Date: Sat, 04 Jan 2003 19:13:51 -0500 Organization: Trial By Combat Message-ID: References: <1y3v2t7l.fsf@hschmi22.userfqdn.rz-online.de> <684r8qtlug.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <68wulmm2u1.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <84el7tx9rb.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138668443 12618 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 00:47:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 00:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:29:39 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!lackawana.kippona.com!news.stealth.net!news.stealth.net!panix!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!sjc-peer.news.verio.net!news.verio.net!iad-read.news.verio.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus X-URL: X-Face: #Z}0zkbqU,m`+S)^0R[.23L-o>U{UQ|(DvIqu^Bjw:po_g9;4JnT9tbn;QX$ga/LYS User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) XEmacs/21.1 (Cuyahoga Valley, i386-unknown-openbsd3.1) Cancel-Lock: sha1:UxYvQQGQmE0BAgpgzppfDDeQUAU= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.70.202.39 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@verio.net Original-X-Trace: iad-read.news.verio.net 1041725579 209.70.202.39 (Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:12:59 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 05 Jan 2003 00:12:59 GMT Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:1899 Original-Lines: 35 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 1899 Tue Jan 17 17:29:39 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:1759 Archived-At: * Robert Uhl writes: > kai.grossjohann@uni-duisburg.de (Kai Großjohann) writes: >> Dan Saklad is still a moron: >>> The difficulty people can encounter is with respect to the >>> question... how do you learn about the system environment? >> >> You keep asking this question over and over, and the answer remains >> the same: ask your system administrator. That's the best I can do, >> even though you might not like this answer. > > The problem is that many newbies they _are_ the sysadmins--and > they really don't know what they're doing. "This is UNIX. Stop acting so helpless."(DJB) > Here they are with an incredibly fine-tuned computing machine, and > they need some help figuring out how to use it. Well, yes. And USENET is organized according to topics. This is *not* comp.os.linux.answers. This isn't a UNIX newsgroup, either. Miss Saklad is trying to make one believe that the Gnus FAQ needs instructions to admin your operating system. Well, I'm sure you'll help her write the documents necessary to cover *ALL* of these: > Very few folks buy a computer for a computer; most buy a computer for > a word processort, a financial calculator &c. Thus it would seem to > me that for many, their introduction to system administration might > come from configuring emacs, GnuCash or gnus. Sad but true. Yes. So? This is totally irrelevant regarding the problem in question. Frank is trying to overhaul the Gnus FAQ. If you want to contribute, well, that's great. As for Miss Saklad: