Re: Two problems with gnus

Re: Two problems with gnus

[Simon Josefsson]

"Tang  Yan" <tang.yan@gmail.com> writes:

> I have solved my problem, so I think I'd better post a message.
>
> It is very easy, just upgrading from 5.9.0 --> 5.10.6 .
>
> And I can read the body of my mails, ;-)
>
> But I think it is terrible for newbies like me and I think gnus'
> documents are poor.

Could you try to suggest ways to improve the documentation?  What
documentation did you use, and what did you search for, and what did
you expect to find but didn't?

Improving the documentation need input from new users.

Re: Two problems with gnus

[Alexandre Russel]

Simon Josefsson <jas@extundo.com> writes:

> Could you try to suggest ways to improve the documentation?  What
> documentation did you use, and what did you search for, and what did
> you expect to find but didn't?
> Improving the documentation need input from new users.

I am also a newbie. I don't think that the documentation is poor,
but the manual is definitely far too difficult for newbie. What
saved me was the Using Gnus tutorial:
It doesn't say much about all the gnus option but take the newbie
from nothing to being able to use gnus for basic mail and news
reading. The tutorial just need to be finished(but is already very usable).
http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/Using-Gnus.html

Two problems with gnus

[Tang Yan]

Now I am trying to use gnus to handle my mails, but I have some problem
with imap in gnus.

The problem is as following, a little strange:
1. Where is my new imap mail?

First, my simple `gnus.el' is only for mail:
--------------------------------------------------
(setq user-mail-address "foo@bar.org"
user-full-name "blahblah")

(setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "imap.bar.org"
(nnimap-server-port 143)
(nnimap-authenticator login)
(nnimap-stream network)
))
--------------------------------------------------
Then I go into {nnimap:imap.bar.org} and subscribe `INBOX' group and
return to the *Group* buffer like this:
-------------------------------
1: INBOX
0: nndraft:drafts
-------------------------------
But when I press `enter' on the line `1: INBOX', waiting for a second
or two, and after something splashing in minibuffer(Updating !@#$%^& ),
the *Group* buffer becomes:
-------------------------------
0: INBOX
0: nndraft:drafts
-------------------------------
Where is my new mail? I have checked my mailbox from webmail, and the
unread flag have been cleared, so the new mail has been read, but
actually I don't even touch it.
And the output of *imap-log* buffer is like this:
--------------------------------------------------------------
63 SELECT "INBOX"
* 18 EXISTS
* 0 RECENT
* FLAGS (\Answered \Flagged \Deleted \Seen \Draft)
* OK [UNSEEN 1] Message 17 is first unseen
* OK [PERMANENTFLAGS (\Deleted \Seen \*)] Limited
* OK [UIDVALIDITY 1] UIDs valid
63 OK [READ-WRITE] SELECT completed
64 UID SEARCH UID 81
* SEARCH
64 OK UID SEARCH completed
65 UID FETCH 81 (UID RFC822.SIZE BODY BODY.PEEK[HEADER.FIELDS (Subject
>From Date Message-Id References In-Reply-To Xref)])
* 18 FETCH (UID 81 RFC822.SIZE 640 BODY ("text" "plain" ("format"
"flowed"
"delsp" "yes" "charset" "gbk") NIL NIL "8bit" 82) BODY[HEADER.FIELDS
(Subject From Date Message-Id References In-Reply-To Xref)] {167}
Subject: 999999
From: "blahblah" <foo@bar.org>
FROM: foo@bar.org

Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 15:27:28 +0800
Message-ID: <opsc2mz2e0w0inp9@localhost>

)
65 OK UID FETCH completed
66 UID STORE 81 +FLAGS (\Seen)
* 18 FETCH (FLAGS (\Flagged \Seen))
66 OK UID STORE completed
67 EXPUNGE
67 OK EXPUNGE completed
68 CLOSE
68 OK CLOSE completed
-------------------------------------------------------------------

I guess it is a small & silly question, but it is really annoying. I
have searched google and read most of gnus manual, but it seems only
this problem kisses me. Why?

2. Another question is strange too although I have solved it. But it
made me believe that there is something wrong in the document of gnus.
gnus version: 5.9.0
nnimap 0.131

This is part of my gnus.el:
-------------------------------------
(setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "imap.bar.org"
(nnimap-server-port 143)
(nnimap-authenticator login)
(nnimap-stream network)
))
-------------------------------------
Now I want to save the user&password pair so that next time when I
start gnus I don't need to input them. So I change the above like this:
----------------------------------------
(setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "imap.bar.org"
(nnimap-server-port 143)
(nnimap-authenticator login)
(nnimap-stream network)
(nnimap-authinfo-file (expand-file-name
"~/.authinfo"))
))
----------------------------------------

And in "~/.authinfo" I wrote:
---------------------------------
machine imap.bar.org login foo password !@#%$
---------------------------------
But when I start gnus I get an error: "error stringp nil..."
OK, so I guess somewrong with the new line I added
(nnimap-authinfo...),
so I rewrote it like this:
(nnimap-authinfo-file "~/.authinfo")
Well, this time it works, but why?

What's the worse, I still have to input the user&password pair.
Then I read almost all the manual of gnus but no explanation.
At last I found a trick in google: add "port 143" in .authinfo file:
-----------------------------------
machine imap.bar.org login foo password !@#%$ port 143
-------------------------------------
And this time, I don't need to input the pair. But all the examples in
manual just say machine, login, password.

Thank you very much.