* message-alternative-emails
@ 2009-08-12 22:09 Olivier Sirven
2009-08-12 22:42 ` message-alternative-emails Mark T.B. Carroll
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From: Olivier Sirven @ 2009-08-12 22:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Hello,
I use message-alternative-emails to declare all my email aliases but
when I create a wide reply to a message sent to one of my aliases Gnus
keeps adding this alias to the CC recipients list. How can I avoid this?
Thanks for your help.
--
Olivier
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
2009-08-12 22:09 message-alternative-emails Olivier Sirven
@ 2009-08-12 22:42 ` Mark T.B. Carroll
2009-08-13 7:03 ` message-alternative-emails Olivier Sirven
2009-08-13 7:23 ` message-alternative-emails Nicolas KOWALSKI
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From: Mark T.B. Carroll @ 2009-08-12 22:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Olivier Sirven <the.slaa@gmail.com> writes:
> I use message-alternative-emails to declare all my email aliases but
> when I create a wide reply to a message sent to one of my aliases Gnus
> keeps adding this alias to the CC recipients list. How can I avoid this?
Does setting user-mail-addresses help?
Mark
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
2009-08-12 22:42 ` message-alternative-emails Mark T.B. Carroll
@ 2009-08-13 7:03 ` Olivier Sirven
2009-08-13 13:29 ` message-alternative-emails Mark T.B. Carroll
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From: Olivier Sirven @ 2009-08-13 7:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
"Mark T.B. Carroll" <mtbc@ixod.org> writes:
> Does setting user-mail-addresses help?
I defined user-mail-address variable to one of my email addresses
And the variable you're talking about, user-mail-addresses, is not known?
--
Olivier
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
2009-08-12 22:09 message-alternative-emails Olivier Sirven
2009-08-12 22:42 ` message-alternative-emails Mark T.B. Carroll
@ 2009-08-13 7:23 ` Nicolas KOWALSKI
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From: Nicolas KOWALSKI @ 2009-08-13 7:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Olivier Sirven <the.slaa@gmail.com> writes:
> Hello,
Hello,
> I use message-alternative-emails to declare all my email aliases but
> when I create a wide reply to a message sent to one of my aliases Gnus
> keeps adding this alias to the CC recipients list. How can I avoid
> this?
I have the two following lines about this in my ~/.gnus:
(setq
message-dont-reply-to-names message-alternative-emails
gnus-ignored-from-addresses message-alternative-emails
)
--
Nicolas
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
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@ 2009-08-13 8:09 ` Olivier Sirven
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From: Olivier Sirven @ 2009-08-13 8:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Nicolas KOWALSKI <niko@petole.demisel.net> writes:
> I have the two following lines about this in my ~/.gnus:
>
> (setq
> message-dont-reply-to-names message-alternative-emails
> gnus-ignored-from-addresses message-alternative-emails
> )
Thanks it works!
--
Olivier
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
2009-08-13 7:03 ` message-alternative-emails Olivier Sirven
@ 2009-08-13 13:29 ` Mark T.B. Carroll
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From: Mark T.B. Carroll @ 2009-08-13 13:29 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Olivier Sirven <the.slaa@gmail.com> writes:
> And the variable you're talking about, user-mail-addresses, is not known?
Argh, sorry about that, looks like I only use it in a locally-defined
function. ):
Mark
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
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@ 2011-01-02 19:20 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-01-02 19:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@users.sf.net> writes:
> message-alternative-emails: defaults to nil
> message-dont-reply-to-names: defaults to nil (which means to strip
> user-mail-address)
Well, it defaults to `rmail-dont-reply-to-names', but that's more for
hysterical porpoises...
> gnus-ignored-from-addresses defaults to user-mail-address
>
> Wouldn't it make more sense to derive message-dont-reply-to-names and
> gnus-ignored-from-addresses from a combination of user-mail-address and
> message-alternative-emails?
It might, but I would imagine that there are people who don't want any
address stripping -- for instance, if they want to Cc a job mail
account, but want to use the home account as the From, and so on.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
2011-01-02 7:37 ` message-alternative-emails Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
@ 2011-01-02 10:41 ` Yuri D'Elia
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From: Yuri D'Elia @ 2011-01-02 10:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
On Sun, 02 Jan 2011 08:37:17 +0100, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
>> In my .gnus file I have the following:
>>
>> (setq message-alternative-emails
>> (concat
>> "\\(email\\)\\|" ...
>> "\\(email\\)\\|" ... ))
>>
>> (setq message-dont-reply-to-names
>> (concat
>> "\\(" (regexp-quote user-mail-address) "\\)\\|"
>> message-alternative-emails))
>>
>> (setq gnus-ignored-from-addresses message-dont-reply-to-names)
>>
>> It sounds like there should be a way to avoid all that repetition. Why
>> aren't these variables derived from each-other automatically by default?
>
> The last variable is derived from `user-mail-address'. The first second
> wouldn't make sense to derive from the first, I think.
Except that user-mail-address can only accept a single address.
Currently:
message-alternative-emails: defaults to nil
message-dont-reply-to-names: defaults to nil (which means to strip
user-mail-address)
gnus-ignored-from-addresses defaults to user-mail-address
Wouldn't it make more sense to derive message-dont-reply-to-names and
gnus-ignored-from-addresses from a combination of user-mail-address and
message-alternative-emails?
It seems to me that the purpose of such variables is to easily recognize
yourself from your different email aliases (except maybe from
message-dont-reply-to-names which may be a superset), and such the
defaults are a bit unsatisfactory.
To be more precise:
message-dont-reply-to-names defaulting to:
(when message-alternative-emails
(concat "\\(" (regexp-quote user-mail-address) "\\)\\|\\("
message-alternative-emails "\\)"))
it makes more sense to avoid replying to one of your many identities.
then default gnus-ignored-from-addresses from
message-dont-reply-to-names? If message-dont-reply-to-names is really
supposed to be a superset, then I would prefer
gnus-ignored-from-addresses to default of the combination of
user-mail-address and message-alternative-emails as above.
I still do believe that message-dont-reply-to-names is mostly used as a
way to filter out yourself though, and using it as a default for
gnus-ignored-from-addresses should be fine.
The opposite should be always true however: message-dont-reply-to-names
is probably always a subset of gnus-ignored-from-addresses, though it's
probably defined too late to be used as a default.
Any comment?
I could supply a patch for this.
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* Re: message-alternative-emails
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@ 2011-01-02 7:37 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-01-02 10:41 ` message-alternative-emails Yuri D'Elia
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From: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen @ 2011-01-02 7:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
Yuri D'Elia <wavexx@users.sf.net> writes:
> In my .gnus file I have the following:
>
> (setq message-alternative-emails
> (concat
> "\\(email\\)\\|" ...
> "\\(email\\)\\|" ... ))
>
> (setq message-dont-reply-to-names
> (concat
> "\\(" (regexp-quote user-mail-address) "\\)\\|"
> message-alternative-emails))
>
> (setq gnus-ignored-from-addresses message-dont-reply-to-names)
>
> It sounds like there should be a way to avoid all that repetition. Why
> aren't these variables derived from each-other automatically by default?
The last variable is derived from `user-mail-address'. The first second
wouldn't make sense to derive from the first, I think.
--
(domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
larsi@gnus.org * Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
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* message-alternative-emails
@ 2010-12-22 17:42 Yuri D'Elia
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From: Yuri D'Elia @ 2010-12-22 17:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: info-gnus-english
In my .gnus file I have the following:
(setq message-alternative-emails
(concat
"\\(email\\)\\|" ...
"\\(email\\)\\|" ... ))
(setq message-dont-reply-to-names
(concat
"\\(" (regexp-quote user-mail-address) "\\)\\|"
message-alternative-emails))
(setq gnus-ignored-from-addresses message-dont-reply-to-names)
It sounds like there should be a way to avoid all that repetition. Why
aren't these variables derived from each-other automatically by default?
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