From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on inbox.vuxu.org X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.3 required=5.0 tests=MAILING_LIST_MULTI, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Received: (qmail 9834 invoked from network); 16 Apr 2022 07:09:32 -0000 Received: from lists.gnu.org (209.51.188.17) by inbox.vuxu.org with ESMTPUTF8; 16 Apr 2022 07:09:32 -0000 Received: from localhost ([::1]:51528 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfcYk-00052M-Cg for ml@inbox.vuxu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:09:30 -0400 Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:43272) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfcYc-00051u-Ko for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:09:23 -0400 Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]:35200) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nfcYY-0003A7-Nd for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 03:09:21 -0400 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nfcYN-0006QY-4h for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Apr 2022 09:09:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Subject: Re: How to subsribe to a general mailing list? Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2022 15:08:55 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87ee22a41n.fsf@penguin> <87tuaxput3.fsf@zoho.eu> <87czhjiyv6.fsf@tullinup.koldfront.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.1.50 (x86_64-apple-darwin21.3.0) Cancel-Lock: sha1:tKlF9uFfe+mXYZNnXTgVXi+k6jo= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Spam_score_int: 8 X-Spam_score: 0.8 X-Spam_bar: / X-Spam_report: (0.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD=0.499, FROM_SUSPICIOUS_NTLD_FP=1.997, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+ml=inbox.vuxu.org@gnu.org Sender: "info-gnus-english" Reply-to: Durand From: Durand via "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" >>>>> Le Jeu, 14 avr 2022 15:22:05 +0200, Adam Sjøgren >>>>> a dit: Durand> - Is it possible to set up an nntp server on my own Durand> virtual personal server, and let Gnus talk to that nntp Durand> server? I presume this is possible, but I have no Durand> experiences in this field. Adam> Certainly. That won't make mailing lists appear on your own Adam> nntp server, though, so that's an extra task to set Adam> up/figure out. Thanks for the confirmation. I know it will contain subtleties: setting up an email server contains a lot of subtleties as well. Durand> - Is it possible to download the mailing list directly, as Durand> an mbox file or any other format that the mailing list Durand> provides, and use an ephemeral group to view the mailing Durand> list? Adam> Yes, if you have an mbox file, you can browse it in Gnus Adam> e.g. by using G f in the *Group* buffer: Thanks for the information. That is exactly what I want! Also thanks for letting me know how to quote the documention string inside a mail. It looks clean and beautiful. :) Adam> [ 14 lines elided ... ] Adam> The traditional way of reading a mailing list is subscribing Adam> to it - then you receive a copy of every email somebody Adam> sends to the mailing list. Emails that can be read in Gnus. Adam> Subscribing is usually as easy as sending an email to a Adam> special address, though sometimes you have to go through a Adam> web form. This depends on the mailing list. I hesitate to do this because I don't want to store the mailing list in my mail inbox. Per chance I don't want to subscribe to the mailing list in the future. If I subscribe to the list, then the only way (that I know) to remove the mails from my mail inbox is to delete them. But, what if I want to read the unsubscribed mailing list again in the future? Re-subscribing to the list won't send me the old mails again. So I need some way to read the entire mailing list. Adam> Gmane is a system that subscribes to mailing lists and Adam> exposes them via nntp. This can be very convenient, but if Adam> the mailing lists you are interested in aren't already on Adam> Gmane, you'll have to deal with getting them added via the Adam> web interface. Thanks for the information. >>>>> Le Jeu, 14 avr 2022 21:24:33 +0800, Adam Sjøgren >>>>> a dit: Durand> From what I heard, the mailing lists on the gmane server Durand> are supposed to be related to "GNU things"? Adam> Where have you heard that? Gmane has all kinds of lists - Adam> as long as the owner of the list doesn't mind, any mailing Adam> list can be added. Sorry for the uninformed saying. Durand> Of course I am not saying that gmane should allow people Durand> to add arbitrary mailing lists to the server; that makes Durand> no sense. Adam> That is literally what Gmane does. I see. Durand> I am just looking for some way to control what I can view Durand> in Gnus. Adam> How are you not in control of that? I mean I do not have the ability to freely manipulate the contents on the server. For example, I have to request to add some mailing lists to the server. How am I in control of that? What if I want to subscribe to some mailing list that I don't wish others to know that I want to subscribe to? Moreover, if I later don't want to subscribe to the mailing list, could I remove the list from the gmane server? By the way, I am kind of in doubt of how gmane works. I mean: why can users add arbitrary mailing lists to the server? I think the server only has a limited amout of spaces, so that the user can only add a limited amount of mailing lists to the server? Or does gmane know some alchemical magic to handle an unlimited amount of subscriptions to mailing lists? >>>>> Le Jeu, 14 avr 2022 21:55:56 +0800, Emanuel Berg via >>>>> "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet >>>>> newsreader (in English)" a dit: Emanuel> Indeed, since it isn't even "GNUS" anymore but Gnus which Emanuel> I believe to be a recursive acronym meaning "Gnus Network Emanuel> User Services". Thanks for the information. :) -- Durand