Re: nnir-notmuch-engine setup with gnus/offlineimap/dovecot

From: Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com>
To: Rainer M Krug <Rainer@krugs.de>
Cc: info-gnus-english@gnu.org
Subject: Re: nnir-notmuch-engine setup with gnus/offlineimap/dovecot
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2016 04:44:39 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2bmz5wr14.fsf@boostpro.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2lgy9swiy.fsf@krugs.de> (Rainer M. Krug's message of "Fri, 30 Sep 2016 08:59:33 +0200")

on Thu Sep 29 2016, Rainer M Krug <Rainer-AT-krugs.de> wrote:

> Dave Abrahams <dave@boostpro.com> writes:
>
>> on Fri Sep 23 2016, Rainer M Krug <Rainer-AT-krugs.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Dmitry Alexandrov <321942@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>>> Most discussions on this topic point to
>>>>> http://roland.entierement.nu/blog/2010/09/08/gnus-dovecot-offlineimap-search-a-howto.html
>>>>>
>>>>> The name implies that this may be exactly what I want, but the
>>>>> link appears to be dead now.  I get an empty page when I try to
>>>>> view it.
>>>
>>> I am using exactly the same setup, except that I am using
>>>
>>> ,----
>>> | (nnimap-shell-program "/usr/local/opt/dovecot/libexec/dovecot/imap -o mail_location=maildir:$HOME/Maildir")))
>>> `----
>>>
>>> to access my local mail and I don't have a dovecot daemon running
>>> permanently.
>>
>> Yes.  Other things that work really well in a setup like that are:
>>
>> 1. Using dovecot's mdbox storage format, which is much more efficient
>
> There is, among others, one reason why I don't use mbox format:
> backup. If I add an email to a folder, the whole mbox file will be
> backed up - in the case of maildir, only the new mail file. This saves
> backup space, especially as I am using a Mac and Time Machine which is
> doing hourly backups.

Not mbox; mdbox.  I've used this setup on a mac with network TM for a
long time.

>> 2. Building dovecot with clucene and stemmer support for search
>
> Does this really work with nnimap-shell-program? I thought one has to
> use the dovecot daemon for this?

Yes, it works.  Feel free to scrape http://github.com/onmsg/onmsg for details
and ask me questions for more.  There's a script in there that I use to
install (most of) this setup with homebrew.

>>
>> 3. Using mbsync from the isync project (scales much better than
>>    offlineimap IMO, though I am about to try dropping it because doveadm
>>    sync is already part of dovecot)
>
> offlineimap works for me - and never change a running system (well -
> that's the theory).

I don't suppose you're syncing any really large folders then?  Among
other things I found doing it all through Python was causing way
much CPU usage on my Macbook pro.

> Interesting - didn't know about doveadm sync - any experiences with
> it?

Not yet.

> How does it compare to isync and offlineimap?

I'm not really in a position to comment yet; I've just skimmed the
output of doveadm help sync.

>>
>>>>
>>>> The Internet Archive Wayback Machine comes to your aid :-)
>>>>
>>>> http://wayback.archive.org/web/20160305042051/http://roland.entierement.nu/blog/2010/09/08/gnus-dovecot-offlineimap-search-a-howto.html
>>>>
>>>> (I have no idea whether this page is in fact helpful though.)
>>>
>>> This link is helpful, but it did not actually help with getting the
>>> search to work. There was another discy=ussion abl=out using lucene in
>>> dovecot for the search, but as you, I would prefer notmuch search.
>>>
>>> I have simply defined a shortcut for me to do the search - much
>>> easier. You could even rebiung GG ?
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Rainer
>>>
>>>>
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-Dave