From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/9657 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t? Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 14:33:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189690532 15717 80.91.229.12 (13 Sep 2007 13:35:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:35:32 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 13 15:35:28 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IVoqd-0008EU-DZ for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:35:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVoqd-0001fX-2M for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVoqa-0001c7-HC for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVoqZ-0001bv-7s for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:35:08 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVoqZ-0001bs-2g for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:35:07 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IVoqY-0000mG-KC for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 09:35:06 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IVoqM-0002MP-33 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:34:54 +0200 Original-Received: from accountslaptop.gradunion.cam.ac.uk ([193.60.92.141]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:34:54 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by accountslaptop.gradunion.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 15:34:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 37 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: accountslaptop.gradunion.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoBAMAAAB+0KVeAAAAG1BMVEUAAAA9Cgm3Hx1WWFWA gn+WmJWsrqv4+vcCAwCRl2MkAAAAAXRSTlMAQObYZgAAAAFiS0dEAIgFHUgAAAAJcEhZcwAAAYoA AAGKATOXMFgAAAAHdElNRQfXAQwDNR+ZJmElAAABIklEQVQoz22SPW+DQAyGWUq65qasd9PNUSX4 AZHK2C1rJy5jpDS4IwRVup9dn7GNafpKIPPgzztXFSujqq1eM2n8h22oMkvxI/i9C97kRfMRUN55 dS3BrsAwBXUtMLAO4lryh8kTjOxKpQNniNxAgZOEe4bZwsDTFhKdqZRLNII4OQNHhEuq/RMkm6Cj TnnEA/fk0BorcYn5qA3oaeAxbaBOLrX+9G48NZ2Fzc2tzDM8Q+tMypEOqYHh8mAWaaK3U/cDMOT5 aMZMABgPXc7zPMs1A8DXO756GFJ/4fMEq47hTsAdn5avoxZ4ywl0c2w4Flu2Ybeyb3S+EqxX2DYA H8veJGEDTnHnrXvRaPyt+2kSfK6rfBZ2tUtfP/mR+pR6sX8BUZ/cDV7tvkoAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 Emacs/23.0.50 (20070901) Fedora 7 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:cCG58CZ9D68FGpAlY7yr9PLAAmE= X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:9657 Archived-At: On 2007-09-13 13:09 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>>>>> Leo wrote: >> On 2007-09-13 11:15 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: > >>> If you have a nnml group, you can see its .overview file, that is just >>> NOV. It's a common format that most news servers use when >>> communicating with clients. It improves the performance. So, >>> disabling it is not a good idea unless it malfunctions in the server. >>> See also `nnml-nov-is-evil' and `nntp-nov-is-evil'. > > Oops. I overlooked `nndiary-nov-is-evil', `nndir-nov-is-evil', > `nnfolder-nov-is-evil', `nnimap-nov-is-evil', `nnspool-nov-is-evil', > and `nnwarchive-nov-is-evil'. > >> Do you think this should go to the manual?' > > Isn't it enough? > > (info "(gnus)Terminology") > ,---- > |"NOV" > | When Gnus enters a group, it asks the back end for the headers of > | all unread articles in the group. Most servers support the News > | OverView format, which is more compact and much faster to read and > | parse than the normal HEAD format. > `---- > > I take time ten times as long as Japanese to write English. ;-) It is odd that it is not explained in the main text of the manual. Terminology is the last thing a user want to see. -- .: Leo :. 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