From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/11179 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: William Xu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: gnus agent and posting Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:39:11 +0900 Organization: the Church of Emacs Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1215423690 3708 80.91.229.12 (7 Jul 2008 09:41:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:41:30 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jul 07 11:42:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KFnEX-0001Tu-Gq for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 11:42:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46850 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFnDg-0008CT-BY for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:41:16 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFnDd-0008AD-99 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:41:13 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KFnDZ-00087o-OV for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:41:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=45850 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KFnDZ-00087l-FF for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:50934 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KFnDZ-0003q6-0l for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 05:41:09 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1KFnDT-0007bp-M3 for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:41:03 +0000 Original-Received: from gw.community-engine.co.jp ([210.255.51.230]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:41:03 +0000 Original-Received: from william.xwl by gw.community-engine.co.jp with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:41:03 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 51 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: gw.community-engine.co.jp User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.2.50 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:ckkRAZQzIuqSAj/leRvykdiDFW8= X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:11179 Archived-At: I put gmane into unplugged status(all the time): ,---- | {nntp:news.gmane.org} (offline) (agent) `---- Tell agent not to queue whenever possible: ,---- | (setq gnus-agent-queue-mail nil) `---- And running the gnus agent as a cron job, for fetching news and sending queued mails. Now when I try to post in some gmane list, like this one(all already authenticated to gmane long ago), the correct behaviour should be: 1. i send the post 2. the post appears in the "nndraft:queue" group 3. at some time(my config is 10 minutes a round), gnus agent cron job will send out the post. Do I understand it right? Sometimes it really works as described. There are two problems I've met: 1. At *many* occassions, after step 1, it doesn't appear in the "nndraft:queue" group, i checked the gmane list from web, the post doesn't appear there either. After some reasonal time, I can confirm that: it's gone!!! Why?? (I'm wishing i don't have to resend this post too many times...) 2. Now it seems the "nndraft:drafts" group likes keep mails written in the middle way, even after I've sent out the mails finally. So i sent a mail, i must delete a draft explicitly... This also only happens at random, not always. I don't have the above problems when I don't use gnus agent, except that gnus always takes control of my emacs brutally, rude gnus! Can anyone save me? -- William http://williamxu.net9.org At the source of every error which is blamed on the computer you will find at least two human errors, including the error of blaming it on the computer.