From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/9663 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Leo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: What's NOV? Should gnus-nov-is-evil be set to t? Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 01:43:27 +0100 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189730742 20343 80.91.229.12 (14 Sep 2007 00:45:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 00:45:42 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 02:45:40 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IVzJQ-0007Jl-NF for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:45:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVzJP-00009O-T1 for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:45:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVzJN-00008S-5s for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:45:33 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IVzJL-00008E-JX for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:45:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IVzJL-000086-8q for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IVzJK-0004nb-SK for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Thu, 13 Sep 2007 20:45:31 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1IVzJH-0005SC-2I for info-gnus-english@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:45:27 +0200 Original-Received: from sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk ([131.111.223.202]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:45:27 +0200 Original-Received: from sdl.web by sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2007 02:45:27 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 24 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sl392.st-edmunds.cam.ac.uk Face: iVBORw0KGgoAAAANSUhEUgAAACgAAAAoAgMAAADxkFD+AAAADFBMVEUvT09qWs3/pQD///+J kUVcAAAAAWJLR0QAiAUdSAAAAAlwSFlzAAALEwAACxMBAJqcGAAAAAd0SU1FB9cBBwMLOd3veKQA AACuSURBVBjTldE9CgIxEAXgB+lEyFUC2wo5ikdZ8DSypxhMY7H9VuIVwlqkGRgnm59VsHGafIQ3 CZlAtmKIRaHETgYa12lqvEsPYKf8wXHsPGfqPaUM0g9aJPKFXkmNQmSDqwzz4Fpgpz+6WAPY2z5o uPJJpu0uypcl4nyCibMLQ8lCiVjayLoQvw5LsVKQuHPRR958HZbOcVsKeepcLxpByjycGvnKmY+c MBvrtyjfe0vmuLvdq/kAAAAASUVORK5CYII= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110007 Emacs/23.0.50 (20070901) Fedora 7 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:DKIj/iHs1mJ+d41Ex9hOhJJ8PUs= X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:9663 Archived-At: On 2007-09-14 00:27 +0100, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote: >>> I take time ten times as long as Japanese to write English. ;-) > >> It is odd that it is not explained in the main text of the >> manual. Terminology is the last thing a user want to see. > > Indeed. I was skeptical to make the Gnus manual describe in detail > such a common word. Since Gnus started as a simple news reader[1], > NOV was a self-explaining word, I believe. But I agree to add a > brief explanation in some place. Volunteer? (If no one stands, > I'll do it someday, even though I'm not a good English writer. ;-) I am non-native speaker myself. > [1] It was GNUS in those days. How simple the one I used first was: > http://www.jpl.org/ftp/pub/elisp/attic/gnus-3.12.tar.Z That is impressive and it looks like it still runs in modern GNU Emacs. -- .: Leo :. [ sdl.web AT gmail.com ] .: [ GPG Key: 9283AA3F ] :. => "(require 'cl) considered harmful" considered harmful => http://dto.freeshell.org/blog/blog-2007-09-07-2323.html