From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/5181 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?iso-8859-15?Q?S=E9bastien?= Kirche Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: how to remove groups entirely from .newsrc.eld file? Date: Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:21:36 +0200 Organization: Aucune. Message-ID: References: Reply-To: =?iso-8859-15?Q?S=E9bastien?= Kirche NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138670965 26400 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:29:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:29:25 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:34:54 2006 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.25.216.129 Original-X-Trace: yeuse.cuq.org 1118222695 7440 195.25.216.129 (8 Jun 2005 09:24:55 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@cuq.org Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jun 2005 09:24:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Face: ;T}O6aj2o*d:|9po%NCuYvExN3]<#cHr0"FaWCh[}WVn6&@L)YWO'&6AO5Ex:MX=H;.^e}o Td*OaFQEBc_xu%+ChwRl!KK`I'["$^aO1gIN{4OyBdO@1HHD5YO#[kiVCk|/-|mmYnU8yTp+eOv."d 1.G3;ro0Q/`,UY+vY/#5b/{OYxE+X\)tc~p~1vbmZ!o4sciW+e8MW|Pz|nl`l*}]8[#1zQO"]d2*{d wrTKu]5t*Gy_pm3e8o=:(c_ju'zlQ<[oJ|\XjgQQmWZC7S]-Fmp\eBHnBO']/te~/;\@l" D#:h)8Q Cancel-Lock: sha1:vWyXER1rZW2e/sCmUwIC3OAzMSI= User-Agent: Gnus/5.110004 (No Gnus v0.4) Emacs/22.0.50 (darwin) Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed.gazeta.pl!newsfeed.pionier.net.pl!news-fra1.dfn.de!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!news.agarik.com!usenet-fr.net!feed.ac-versailles.fr!news.cuq.org!not-for-mail Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:5323 Original-Lines: 58 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 5323 Tue Jan 17 17:34:54 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:5181 Archived-At: Le 8 Jun 2005 à 06:06, Gernot Hassenpflug s'est exprimé ainsi : > Hello, > > I have been using gnus to read old mail, using G D. I then copied > articles en masse to nnml groups, which are created by gnus if they do > not already exist. However, if I want to now kill one of these nnml > groups, and I use either S k or Ctrl-K, the group still remains > somewhere in my startup news files. I have some parsing error in one > of these nnml groups, perhaps due to Japanese character sets, and I > copied articles to other groups, and deleted this particular nnml > group. It still gets read on startup though.... > > Do I have to edit the .newsrc.eld file by hand to get rid of it? While recently playing with archives groups and creating several bogus servers i found that sometimes the only way to get rid of a server definition is to manually edit .newsrc.eld files (when Gnus is not started) and to edit the gnus-server-alist definition. As else in the server buffer Gnus keeps on refusing to kill some of them. > On a related note, anything done with G D appears in the .newsrc.eld > file, as expected, but not anywhere in my .gnus.el. Similarly, if I > copy articles from an existing mail group into a new one, this new one > is created, but does not exist in my .gnus.el. This is inconvenient > for me, since I do not want my mail groups destroyed if something > happens to .newsrc.eld. That file is also not so easy to understand at > a glance. I think that .gnus.el should be considered more as an initialisation script that actually a config file. (Except for the customize section in the .emacs file that one can place elsewhere) Gnus does not modify its starting script but stores its configuration in the .newsrc.eld file. So it is normal not to see groups/servers or parameters modifications propagated to the .gnus.el file. > Is there a recommended method for keeping mail safely organized (easy > to overview in the .gnus.el file, for example, not so easy if you > don't know where on disk(s) your groups were located if you have to > try and look for them again), and can I move stuff that is created > with G D into my .gnus.el file? Maybe you can do like me for some settings : looking in the .newsrc.eld for the parameters that gnus set and copying them to the .gnus to keep them in case of future reuse. I used to see that those settings are ignored from the .gnus if they are also present in the .newsrc.eld (so you have to remove them from .newsrc.eld before they are taken into account if you modify the .gnus definition). HTH. -- Sébastien Kirche