From: harven <harven@free.fr>
To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org
Subject: Re: gnus and pine
Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:55:00 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m2r645no7f.fsf@free.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3044.1229622406.26697.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
Xavier Maillard <xma@gnu.org> writes:
> harven <harven@free.fr> writes:
>
>> I recently switched from Pine to Gnus as a mail reader.
>> I wrote a quick tutorial on the emacs wiki to make Gnus behave
>> a little more like Pine :
>> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/GnusAndPine
>> Any comments are welcome.
>
> I am wondering why you made the switch.
I have used Pine for some years now, and it was nice, albeit for the
fact that Pine has a built-in editor which is pretty limited when it
comes to localisation, formatting, completion and else. So I began to
use emacs as an external editor. After a while, it felt a bit strange
to spawn big emacs from little pine, when often there was already some
emacs instance hanging around. So I started looking for another way to
check my mail. Gnus is pine-compatible, that is, it can read and write
in the pine mailbox, and it is provided with emacs, so I gave it a try.
> Also could you describe
> Pine onto your emacwiki page and what differs with Gnus (AFYK).
>
> Xavier
The emacs wiki is not the best place to talk about pine. See the pine
(or alpine) webpage for more information about it. In short, Pine is a
unix text-only keyboard-driven mail client, that runs from the command
line, and is targeted at inexperienced users. This may appear a bit
contradictory at first, but really you can set it up and be proficient
with it in less than a minute. Have a try. In some sense, the opposite
of Gnus.
Pine Gnus
fast extensible
ease-of-use hard to configure
primarily a mail reader primarily a news reader
C Lisp
from the terminal from within emacs
a single mailbox format seven mailbox formats
help onscreen 500+ pages manual
4 millions users dedicated fan base (?)
for the mass for the elisp expert
There is nothing fancy with the code I wrote on the wiki. Main points
* one letter shortcuts for common task in the summary buffer, same as pine
s save d delete f forward r reply ...
* a few different marks. D deleted X expunge
* expiry 0
* a better "search in articles" command
* highlighting of the current line in the summary buffer
* confirmation when sending email, check for forgotten attachments
It has probably no interest for a seasoned Gnus user. But it may help
a Pine user which wants a better integration with emacs.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2008-12-18 21:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2008-12-16 10:44 harven
2008-12-18 6:33 ` Xavier Maillard
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2008-12-18 21:55 ` harven [this message]
2008-12-19 10:24 ` Frédéric Perrin
[not found] ` <mailman.3109.1229682307.26697.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2008-12-19 11:38 ` harven
2008-12-19 21:43 ` Xavier Maillard
[not found] ` <mailman.3140.1229723201.26697.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2008-12-20 0:25 ` David Kastrup
2008-12-20 10:53 ` harven
2008-12-22 6:26 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-12-22 9:21 ` Sivaram Neelakantan
2008-12-22 10:31 ` Xavier Maillard
2008-12-22 11:41 ` Reiner Steib
[not found] ` <mailman.3228.1229928365.26697.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2008-12-22 11:25 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-22 13:50 ` Xavier Maillard
[not found] ` <mailman.3241.1229957171.26697.info-gnus-english@gnu.org>
2008-12-22 15:27 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-22 16:22 ` harven
2008-12-22 16:27 ` Richard Riley
2008-12-22 17:14 ` harven
2009-01-04 0:54 ` Joe Fineman
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