From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/11740 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: harven Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: gnus and pine Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:55:00 +0100 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1229640339 1067 80.91.229.12 (18 Dec 2008 22:45:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 18 Dec 2008 22:45:39 +0000 (UTC) To: info-gnus-english@gnu.org Original-X-From: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 18 23:46:43 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LDRda-00011W-BN for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:46:34 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46114 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LDRcO-0001dp-5n for gegu-info-gnus-english@m.gmane.org; Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:45:20 -0500 Original-Path: news.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!feeder.news-service.com!proxad.net!feeder2-2.proxad.net!cleanfeed2-a.proxad.net!nnrp2-2.free.fr!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.1 (darwin) Cancel-Lock: sha1:MDpZRZaP1bACUoiE4H1KQ11qmGc= Original-Lines: 56 Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: 18 Dec 2008 22:55:01 MET Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.240.200.149 Original-X-Trace: 1229637301 news-4.free.fr 14339 82.240.200.149:49829 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Original-Xref: news.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.gnus:81998 X-BeenThere: info-gnus-english@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader \(in English\)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: info-gnus-english-bounces+gegu-info-gnus-english=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:11740 Archived-At: Xavier Maillard writes: > harven writes: > >> I recently switched from Pine to Gnus as a mail reader. >> I wrote a quick tutorial on the emacs wiki to make Gnus behave >> a little more like Pine : >> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs-en/GnusAndPine >> Any comments are welcome. > > I am wondering why you made the switch. I have used Pine for some years now, and it was nice, albeit for the fact that Pine has a built-in editor which is pretty limited when it comes to localisation, formatting, completion and else. So I began to use emacs as an external editor. After a while, it felt a bit strange to spawn big emacs from little pine, when often there was already some emacs instance hanging around. So I started looking for another way to check my mail. Gnus is pine-compatible, that is, it can read and write in the pine mailbox, and it is provided with emacs, so I gave it a try. > Also could you describe > Pine onto your emacwiki page and what differs with Gnus (AFYK). > > Xavier The emacs wiki is not the best place to talk about pine. See the pine (or alpine) webpage for more information about it. In short, Pine is a unix text-only keyboard-driven mail client, that runs from the command line, and is targeted at inexperienced users. This may appear a bit contradictory at first, but really you can set it up and be proficient with it in less than a minute. Have a try. In some sense, the opposite of Gnus. Pine Gnus fast extensible ease-of-use hard to configure primarily a mail reader primarily a news reader C Lisp from the terminal from within emacs a single mailbox format seven mailbox formats help onscreen 500+ pages manual 4 millions users dedicated fan base (?) for the mass for the elisp expert There is nothing fancy with the code I wrote on the wiki. Main points * one letter shortcuts for common task in the summary buffer, same as pine s save d delete f forward r reply ... * a few different marks. D deleted X expunge * expiry 0 * a better "search in articles" command * highlighting of the current line in the summary buffer * confirmation when sending email, check for forgotten attachments It has probably no interest for a seasoned Gnus user. But it may help a Pine user which wants a better integration with emacs.