From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.emacs.gnus.user/3244 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kbk@shore.net (Kurt B. Kaiser) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.gnus.user Subject: Re: New Gnus user Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:56:16 GMT Organization: Comcast Online Message-ID: References: <87smk0ybxr.fsf@oz.fapse.ulg.ac.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1138669432 18244 80.91.229.2 (31 Jan 2006 01:03:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 01:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: nobody Tue Jan 17 17:31:55 2006 Original-Path: quimby.gnus.org!newsfeed1.e.nsc.no!nsc.no!nextra.com!uio.no!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!attbi_s51.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.gnus User-Agent: Gnus/5.090015 (Oort Gnus v0.15) Emacs/21.2 Cancel-Lock: sha1:+IkONdwfGooGUqCqk1Y/+XmudvA= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.61.140.46 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net Original-X-Trace: attbi_s51 1070589376 24.61.140.46 (Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:56:16 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 01:56:16 GMT Original-Xref: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de gnus-emacs-gnus:3385 Original-Lines: 53 X-Gnus-Article-Number: 3385 Tue Jan 17 17:31:55 2006 Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.gnus.user:3244 Archived-At: Arnaud Vandyck writes: > I had some problems managing lot and lot of mail (but maybe I do it > wrong). Do you think (be honest) that Gnus is better for that? > > Can someone give the main advantages/ defeacts between Gnus and Mew Gnus is pretty open-ended. If you want to do complicated things, it's unbeatable. In my case: Mail comes into shore.net, and my procmail there strips off my whitelist and my mail lists into IMAP groups. It then filtered the rest for spam keywords and repeat offenders and fed the output to a MailToRead group. Gnus accesses this account and splits it into further groups. That became insufficient lately :-) Shore doesn't have *any* spam filters, so now my procmail ships the output to another account which runs virus checks and spamassassin and provides IMAP webmail if I need it. Gnus is looking at both the shore.net account and the other IMAP account. It does splitting on the latter into about five groups and manages the spamassassin Junk (7 day expunge) and Trash (1 day expunge). If anything actually gets through all this, I have my scoring all set up (from the previous configuration) so F5 scores it down and moves to the next article. If they make it to the bottom of my 30 day score file, they get added to the procmail blacklist. (But I don't think that is going to get used much anymore.) I'm dealing with about 30 mail groups including mail, lists, newsgroups, and local groups. I subscribe and unsubscribe as needed. The local groups hold archives and lists that I want to save because they aren't archived on the internet. In those cases I have set the groups on shore.net to expire to a local group on my computer instead of "delete", and they download automagically. Gnus handles the whole mess seamlessly with one display of typically 10 groups of unread items coming from three news sources and two mail sources. On the other hand, I've got my wife using it. She was using emacs for editing magazine articles and books and was using Hotmail webmail. We wanted to get away from that, so I tried her on Opera 7. The first thing that came up was "there's no spell checker!!" Since she thinks aspell is the greatest, I said, "Why not?" and set her up with Gnus and a 10 line cheatsheet. This is working great. C-c c brings up the emacs/gnus cheatsheet, C-c m starts gnus, and C-c a opens her .mailrc. Middleclick on a url starts Opera. She doesn't even know what Usenet is. -- KBK