Re: get mail from ssh

Re: get mail from ssh

[Wu XiaoGuang]

woohsiaokuang@yahoo.com.cn (Wu XiaoGuang) wrote in message news:<8c53236b.0209141953.7df583fc@posting.google.com>...
> Hi, all:
>   I have a ssh account at remote server. Now I use a "silly" methord
> to fetch it.
>   First I use 'sftp' to login remote server, then I 'get' the mails in
> "~/Maildir/new/", after that, delete "new" mails in it, and quit
> 'sftp';
>   Then I put the new mails(with long name) in "~/.Maildir/new/";
> 
>   OK, now I could use 'gnus' to read it. :-)
> 
> 
> Here is part of my ".gnus":
> 
> (setq mail-sources '((pop :server "pop.mail.yahoo.com"
>                           :user "username"
>                           :password "secret")
>                       (maildir :path "~/.Maildir/"
>                               :subdirs ("cur" "new"))))

Thank you, Chan.
I install emacs-tramp-20020122 from MDL8.2 CD.
But my ssh account only support 'sftp' to transfer message.

Here is the error:
Mail source error ((error Out of band method `scp' not applicable for
remote shell asking for a password)).  Continue? (yes or no)

Re: get mail from ssh

[Kai Großjohann]

woohsiaokuang@yahoo.com.cn (Wu XiaoGuang) writes:

> I install emacs-tramp-20020122 from MDL8.2 CD.
> But my ssh account only support 'sftp' to transfer message.
>
> Here is the error:
> Mail source error ((error Out of band method `scp' not applicable for
> remote shell asking for a password)).  Continue? (yes or no)

You can use another method than scp.  Read the Tramp documentation
for information about the other methods.

If the remote host has mimencode installed, then "sm" might be the
method for you.

kai
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Re: get mail from ssh

[Wu XiaoGuang]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann wrote in message news:<vaf8z22xmp2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>...
> woohsiaokuang@yahoo.com.cn (Wu XiaoGuang) writes:
> 
> > I install emacs-tramp-20020122 from MDL8.2 CD.
> > But my ssh account only support 'sftp' to transfer message.
> >
> > Here is the error:
> > Mail source error ((error Out of band method `scp' not applicable for
> > remote shell asking for a password)).  Continue? (yes or no)
> 
> You can use another method than scp.  Read the Tramp documentation
> for information about the other methods.
> 
> If the remote host has mimencode installed, then "sm" might be the
> method for you.
> 
> kai

Hi, Fischer:
I just install emacs-tramp RPM package in MDL 8.2 CD.
You could get it from www.rpmfind.net .

If you want to compile it to .elc file, maybe you could use
"byte-compile-file" function.

BTW. I post it at google, and it is a little delayed. :(

Re: get mail from ssh

[Kai Großjohann]

Hubert Chan <hubert@uhoreg.ca> writes:

> [1] http://tramp.sourceforge.net/

Please note that Tramp has moved!  It's now available at
http://savannah.gnu.org/projects/tramp .

kai
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Re: get mail from ssh

[Clemens Fischer]

prj@po.cwru.edu (Paul Jarc) writes:

[installing tramp]
> This looks like a different texinfo.  I think Kai is talking about GNU
> texinfo, available from ftp://ftp.gnu.org/gnu/texinfo/.

aha!  so i installed gnus texinfo, version 4.2.  but  do i really have
to install "tex" just for getting documentation?  the errors mutated
to:

makeinfo --footnote-style=end --no-split tramp.texi
texi2dvi tramp.texi
tex: not found
stdin:119: warning: @menu seen before first @node, creating `Top'
node.
stdin:119: warning: perhaps your @top node should be wrapped in
@ifnottex rather than @ifinfo?.
stdin:119: Next field of node `Top' not pointed to.
stdin:593: This node (Connection types) has the bad Prev.
tex: not found
/usr/local/bin/texi2dvi: tex exited with bad status, quitting.
/usr/local/bin/texi2dvi: see tramp.log for errors.

...  i guess not.  there's a lone info/tramp file obviously containing
enough documentation.  so, with the Makefile failing me, i just
verified that the files i really need are there and updated to the
current time, and copied them manually:

ccp info/tramp /l/doc/emacs/info/
lt lisp/
ccp lisp/tramp* /l/doc/emacs/site-lisp/tramp/

(ccp is an alias for cp(1), and /l/doc/ points to
/usr/local/share/emacs).

is this rediculously wrong, or can i risk trying tramp?

clemens

Re: get mail from ssh

[Kai Großjohann]

Jarl Friis <jarl@diku.dk> writes:

> So, yes you do need TeX even just to get the info files!

Wow, I'm surprised.  But M-x texinfo-format-buffer RET probably does
it without TeX at all.

kai
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Re: get mail from ssh

[Russ Allbery]

Jarl Friis <jarl@diku.dk> writes:

> The first line in a texinfo file contains "\input texinfo" which loads
> the texinfo format all the macros that makes up the
> texinfo-tags. makeinfo uses TeX for precessing the texinfo-macros and
> processing the texinfo docuemnt.

I'm fairly certain that this is not true.  You should only need TeX to
generated printed documentation; makeinfo is independent of the TeX
installation and can generate plain text, info pages, or HTML without a
TeX installation.

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@stanford.edu)             <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

Re: get mail from ssh

[Jesper Harder]

Jarl Friis <jarl@diku.dk> writes:

> texinfo certanly requires TeX. texinfo files are a TeX-files! (they
> are just not plain-tex files)
>
> The first line in a texinfo file contains "\input texinfo" which loads
> the texinfo format all the macros that makes up the texinfo-tags.

Yes, but that's only used when you process the file with TeX.

> makeinfo uses TeX for precessing the texinfo-macros and processing the
> texinfo docuemnt.

Nope, 'makeinfo' doesn't use TeX.  Of course, 'texi2dvi' and 'texi2pdf'
*do* need TeX -- but you don't need it if you only want info files.

> So, yes you do need TeX even just to get the info files!

Try removing or renaming your tex executable, and try this:

$ tex 
bash: tex: command not found
$ makeinfo message.texi
$ ls message*
message  message-1  message-2  message.texi

Re: get mail from ssh

[Jarl Friis]

Jarl Friis <jarl@diku.dk> writes:

> grossjoh@ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) writes:
> 
> > Clemens Fischer <ino@despammed.com> writes:
> > 
> > > makeinfo --footnote-style=end --no-split tramp.texi
> > > texi2dvi tramp.texi
> > > tex: not found
> > > stdin:119: warning: @menu seen before first @node, creating `Top'
> > > node.
> > > stdin:119: warning: perhaps your @top node should be wrapped in
> > > @ifnottex rather than @ifinfo?.
> > > stdin:119: Next field of node `Top' not pointed to.
> > > stdin:593: This node (Connection types) has the bad Prev.
> > > tex: not found
> > > /usr/local/bin/texi2dvi: tex exited with bad status, quitting.
> > > /usr/local/bin/texi2dvi: see tramp.log for errors.
> > 
> > Whee.  I didn't see these errors.  Btw, the "tex: not found" part is
> > for generating the printable version.  What happens when you manually
> > do
> > 
> >     makeinfo --footnote-style=end --no-split tramp.texi
> 
> "tex: not found" part is *NOT* only for generating the printable
> version.
> 
> texinfo certanly requires TeX. texinfo files are a TeX-files! (they
> are just not plain-tex files)
> 
> The first line in a texinfo file contains "\input texinfo" which loads
> the texinfo format all the macros that makes up the
> texinfo-tags. makeinfo uses TeX for precessing the texinfo-macros and
> processing the texinfo docuemnt.
> 
> So, yes you do need TeX even just to get the info files!

It certainly seems that I am not correct on this, sorry on the
mis-info.

Jarl