learning gnus

learning gnus

[David Rod]

Hi,
The info manual is a bit complicated for my user level.   i would like
to find something really useful to help me learn how to use gnus quickly
and efficiently without wasting too much time about all the stuff which
is under the bonnet.  I want to learn about things like being able to
instantly see replies to my postings without having to look for those.

Any suggestions?

David Roderick
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Re: learning gnus

[Tassilo Horn]

David Rod <angel_ov_north@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

Hi David,

> The info manual is a bit complicated for my user level.  i would like
> to find something really useful to help me learn how to use gnus
> quickly and efficiently without wasting too much time about all the
> stuff which is under the bonnet.

I don't think there's another document that describes Gnus as
comprehensively as the manual.

> I want to learn about things like being able to instantly see replies
> to my postings without having to look for those.

What do you mean with instantly seeing them?  You can make them more
eye-catching with scoring.  In my ~/.gnus.el I have

  (add-hook 'message-sent-hook 'gnus-score-followup-article)
  (add-hook 'message-sent-hook 'gnus-score-followup-thread)

which scores up followups to my postings.  Articles with higher score
are displayed with another face and you can sort the summary buffer by
score.

HTH,
Tassilo
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Re: learning gnus

[David Rod]

I believe that there used to be a tutorial about gnus at some website,
but this is no longer on the web.

There appears to be a huge gap in the book market for gnus because there
are not any books about gnus ever written.  Such a book would assume
that another book about an introduction to emacs had already been read.  

I know vaguely that setq will change a variable but I really want a
cookbook because if I start messing around with things I will break
things without any knowledge about what I am breaking.

Reading the info manual is a 2 week task!
Thanks for advice.  Will try (blindly). 

David Roderick


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Re: learning gnus

[Glyn Millington]

David Rod <angel_ov_north@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

> I believe that there used to be a tutorial about gnus at some website,
> but this is no longer on the web.
>
> There appears to be a huge gap in the book market for gnus because there
> are not any books about gnus ever written.  Such a book would assume
> that another book about an introduction to emacs had already been read.  
>
> I know vaguely that setq will change a variable but I really want a
> cookbook because if I start messing around with things I will break
> things without any knowledge about what I am breaking.
>
> Reading the info manual is a 2 week task!
> Thanks for advice.  Will try (blindly). 

Here's the tutorial

http://web.archive.org/web/20070607231356/http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/
alas its only an archived version.

and there is some good stuff here


http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en?CategoryGnus






Hope that helps

atb

Glyn

Re: learning gnus

[Joost Diepenmaat]

David Rod <angel_ov_north@tiscali.co.uk> writes:

> I believe that there used to be a tutorial about gnus at some website,
> but this is no longer on the web.
>
> There appears to be a huge gap in the book market for gnus because there
> are not any books about gnus ever written.  Such a book would assume
> that another book about an introduction to emacs had already been read.  
>
> I know vaguely that setq will change a variable but I really want a
> cookbook because if I start messing around with things I will break
> things without any knowledge about what I am breaking.
>
> Reading the info manual is a 2 week task!
> Thanks for advice.  Will try (blindly). 

(setq) and lots of other stuff used in configuring emacs and gnus are
emacs-lisp functions or macros. If you're familar with any lisp variant
translating to and from emacs lisp isn't very hard. If you're not
familiar with lisp, and mainly interested in emacs/gnus,

<http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/emacs-lisp-intro/html_mono/emacs-lisp-intro.html>

should get you started. Chapter 1 should tell you almost all you need to
do minimal configuration.

Joost.

Re: learning gnus

[Joost Diepenmaat]

Joost Diepenmaat <joost@zeekat.nl> writes:

> David Rod <angel_ov_north@tiscali.co.uk> writes:
>
>> I believe that there used to be a tutorial about gnus at some website,
>> but this is no longer on the web.
>>
>> There appears to be a huge gap in the book market for gnus because there
>> are not any books about gnus ever written.  Such a book would assume
>> that another book about an introduction to emacs had already been read.  

See below

>> I know vaguely that setq will change a variable but I really want a
>> cookbook because if I start messing around with things I will break
>> things without any knowledge about what I am breaking.
>>
>> Reading the info manual is a 2 week task!
>> Thanks for advice.  Will try (blindly). 
>
> (setq) and lots of other stuff used in configuring emacs and gnus are
> emacs-lisp functions or macros.

To clarify: almost all emacs and gnus configuration files are
emacs-lisp /programs/, and gnus is AFAIK completely written in emacs
lisp itself. But as I indicated in my previous post, you only need a fairly
minimal knowledge of (emacs) lisp to configure the simpler options.

Plus you can use the "Customize" system for a lot of them.

M-x customize-group<RET>
gnus<RET>

Joost.

Re: learning gnus

[Leo]

On 2007-12-30 21:34 +0000, David Rod wrote:
> I believe that there used to be a tutorial about gnus at some website,
> but this is no longer on the web.
>
> There appears to be a huge gap in the book market for gnus because there
> are not any books about gnus ever written.  Such a book would assume
> that another book about an introduction to emacs had already been read.  
>
> I know vaguely that setq will change a variable but I really want a
> cookbook because if I start messing around with things I will break
> things without any knowledge about what I am breaking.
>
> Reading the info manual is a 2 week task!
> Thanks for advice.  Will try (blindly). 
>
> David Roderick

It is here: http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/emacs-en/GnusTutorial

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Re: learning gnus

[Sébastien Vauban]

Hi Tassilo,

>> I want to learn about things like being able to instantly see replies
>> to my postings without having to look for those.
>
> You can make them more eye-catching with scoring. In my
> ~/.gnus.el I have
>
>   (add-hook 'message-sent-hook 'gnus-score-followup-article)
>   (add-hook 'message-sent-hook 'gnus-score-followup-thread)
>
> which scores up followups to my postings.

Is it possible to limit that setting only to the newsgroups, and
not to the mails as well?

Thanks,
  Seb

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